Something new to talk about

Matty:

It's OK to be nasty. You can call them "busts" instead of "disappointing" and we won't think you've gone totally over to the dark side. :laughing-

Expectations for Westbrook were higher than for Gardner and neither came close to living up to whatever expecation level was set for them. I think Westbrook was the bigger problem for the Skins because he was involved in some "internal team issues" that were less than wonderful and Gardner seems not to have had that dimension to his game.

I have to conclude that Gardner is not anywhere near a MENSA candidate though. Remember, he's the guy who had his car stolen when he gave the keys to some guy posing as a valet parking attendant. As they say in the Guinness commercials: BRILLIANT!!

Yeah the more I think about it I think it's safe to call Westbrook a bust because of how high of a pick he was, the expectation level was definitely a lot higher for Westbrook compared to Gardner.

Westbrook = bust
Gardner = disappointment

Westbrook. He was a top five pick? right? Westbrook just was a total and complete bust, I wouldnt really call Gardner a bust. He is still an overall decent wide reciver, he's just inconsistant. I know thats huge for a wide out, but I think you see what I'm saying; If I had a team right now and I had to pick the two guys, I'd take Gardner easily.

Hold on there, guys. Westbrook and Gardner are closer than you might think.

We have to remember that Westbrook never had much of a quarterback to work with -- Gardner was slightly more fortunate in that regard.

Michael Westbrook was simply one cog in the wheel of really bad teams that were constantly overhauling under a bad coach. In '99, when things finally started to come together, and there was an equally imposing threat from Albert Connell, Westbrook had a good year. The main problem with him was his injury bug.

True, injuries did plague Westbrook. The guy looked like he was carved from stone but he was constantly nicked up and then he ripped up his knee in '00.

THAT's right. I forgot why he was injured. That knee was what eventually was his undoing right?

Definitely Westbrook. When he came to DC, he said he would put up Jerry Rice numbers...but as Kornheiser would say....he put up Condoleeza Rice numbers instead.

I don't remember too much about him, I just remember he was cut as hell. Too bad he didn't pan out. At least drafting has had much more success as of late: Ramsey, Taylor, Cooley, Arrington. The past few years have brought a few above average to excellent players to the team.

I don't remember too much about him, I just remember he was cut as hell. Too bad he didn't pan out. At least drafting has had much more success as of late: Ramsey, Taylor, Cooley, Arrington. The past few years have brought a few above average to excellent players to the team.


Do you remember when he KO'ed Stephen Davis @ Training camp?

Stephen Davis shouldn't talk shit and not expect to get clocked.