Griffin shows his smarts

I think, at least I hope, when it's all said and done RG3 and Luck will be the "Magic and Bird" of the NFL.

Good way to put it.

I think, at least I hope, when it's all said and done RG3 and Luck will be the "Magic and Bird" of the NFL.

Or the Gretzky and Lemeiux if you will :D

Major points for the parallel though.

Yet another way to look at it...
Luck is basically Cam Newton except he's smaller, slower, lacks the arm strength, doesn't have as clean of a throwing motion/release, oh and didn't win the big game to keep his team undefeated and didn't lead his team to a national championship.

Luck is a very good athlete in his own right, but Cam is a specimen like I've never seen.
The kid threw a jump pass for 40+ yards in the air on the money, he's thrown off his back foot for 50 yard bombs.
Cam's arm talent is on a whole other level then Luck.

Their measurables are pretty close, I'd give the edge to Cam for his arm strength, and the edge to Luck for his decision making and overall grasp of a pro-style offense.

Maybe Cam wasn't the best comparison. Still it doesn't change the fact, Luck has been deemed by multiple talent evaluators to be the best QB prospect since John Elway.

Also I don't know why you would hold not winning a national championship against him considering how crooked the BCS system is. I mean consider that Vince Young, Tim Tebow, and Matt Leinart also won it.

Well Cam Newton had a better rookie year then Elway's rookie year. Cam threw for 4,0510 yards and scored an amazing 35 TD's in his rookie year and rushed 706 yards averaging 5.6 yards a carry. Those are insane rookie numbers, better then Elway's. I guess that would make Cam Newton a better pro prospect then Elway.?.? Kidding.

Maybe Cam wasn't the best comparison...Yeah, maybe Cam wasn't the best comparison.
I was responding to your comparison between Luck and Cam.
The rest of your post has nothing to do with me, I'm not making the points you address.

Well Cam Newton had a better rookie year then Elway's rookie year. Cam threw for 4,0510 yards and scored an amazing 35 TD's in his rookie year and rushed 706 yards averaging 5.6 yards a carry. Those are insane rookie numbers, better then Elway's. I guess that would make Cam Newton a better pro prospect then Elway.?.? Kidding.

We're talking pre-draft evaluations. How scouts view them coming into the draft. Once they take the field they're no longer draft prospects.

Their measurables are pretty close, I'd give the edge to Cam for his arm strength, and the edge to Luck for his decision making and overall grasp of a pro-style offense.Most of the elite QB prospects measureables are pretty close though.
Assessing the differences of the top QB prospects basically amounts to splitting hairs.
But for me its Cam size coupled with his athleticism that makes him rare and set him apart: elite arm strength, elite athleticism, elite size.
I agree that Luck is by far more 'pro-ready' but being 'pro-ready' is a coachable trait and the advantage of pro-readiness may not last past training camp.

I don't even know what this discussion is about anymore.
*shrugs*

We're talking pre-draft evaluations. How scouts view them coming into the draft. Once they take the field they're no longer draft prospects.I think its fair to say that evaluators are often wrong.
And thankfully for the Panthers their talent evaluators were right.
I think Cam proved many of the pre-draft evaluations wrong.

I think its fair to say that evaluators are often wrong.
And thankfully for the Panthers their talent evaluators were right.
I think Cam proved many of the pre-draft evaluations wrong.

Of course they're often wrong, but on draft day they're kind of the only thing that matters.

Most of the elite QB prospects measureables are pretty close though.
Assessing the differences of the top QB prospects basically amounts to splitting hairs.
But for me its Cam size coupled with his athleticism that makes him rare and set him apart: elite arm strength, elite athleticism, elite size.
I agree that Luck is by far more 'pro-ready' but being 'pro-ready' is a coachable trait and the advantage of pro-readiness may not last past training camp.

I don't even know what this discussion is about anymore.
*shrugs*

Agree with what you said on Cam, he's definitely a freak, but a year ago at this time not so many were convinced Cam was going to translate well to the pro game, at least as well as he did.

Funny that we've gotten to the point where we're trying to talk up Luck of all guys. Even if he's a notch below Cam, he's going to be a heck of a player.