RGIII Named Starter

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Monkeydad
05-15-2012, 10:16 AM
i think fanarchist's elitist stance rubs more than one the wrong way

I think fanarchist is Donovan McNabb. He has the time to troll the boards now.

mooby
05-15-2012, 10:20 AM
Please make it stop.

This. I feel like I lost track of where this went from being fun to being dull.

SirClintonPortis
05-15-2012, 10:29 AM
Yes. I agree the franchise has changed coaching staffs far to frequently for my liking too, but the fact that Shanahan's overall record of wins, and losses is worse than those of his most recent predecessors must also be factored into the equation. I understand he said it will take a while to turn this franchise around, that is a fact, but whether he will turn this franchise around in that time period remains to be seen. If he does, and I hope he can, I'm all for it. However if he can't those words are hollow, the effort was fruitless, time was potentially waisted, and the point is moot. I'm not too high on resumes to begin with, but some of the winningest, and most innovative coaches in the league could be considered plucked from the ether, or given a head coaching shot when juxtaposed with a resume as extensive as Shanahans at this point in his career, and have remained with, and built their legacy through a single team. I'm glad that you trust the current regime and respect that you have an opinion on this topic, but based on what they've shown us up to this moment it seems slightly paradoxical, and I refuse to hold anyone to a lower standard if they are skeptical that this regime can deliver us from mediocrity based their production to date.

Part of the "the game within the game of football" is being well-compensated for personnel mistakes. If we had grabbed a QB project in 2010 or 2011, which many have lamented about in the past but I'm sure no longer do, much to my chagrin because they never introspect about how bad those ADHD principles(or lack thereof) they hold are, THERE IS NO ROBERT GRIFFIN III ON THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW.

fanarchist
05-15-2012, 10:29 AM
Provided, yes, the Shanahans haven't produced in the win column just yet. No doubt that's where we ultimately need to see improvement. I can go on into detail to justify being patient, but ultimately, when the 'skins don't even win half their games during the season, that patience runs thin. With that said, I do think MS has improved the talent of this team. The team has gotten younger, and keeps getting younger. He has three quality backs (assuming TH makes the team) in the back field, quality receivers, quality tight ends, what hopes to be a franchise elite QB, a pretty darn improved defense....etc...there are a lot of areas in which this team has improved. But anyways, like I said, I'm not going to go into details of justification, but other than to say I'd have to respectfully disagree that if Shanahan can't turn this club around in the five years, that it will all be wasted time. Consider this, the coaches that the 49ers had prior to Harbaugh could not produce wins on the field, but they were pretty good with bringing in and building talent on that team. Harbaugh comes in and nearly took them to the Super Bowl. But, a lot of his talent was already in place, the team just needed the right guy to manage that talent. If Shanahan turns out to not be the guy to turn this club around, it won't be because of his skills in finding the talent, it will be because he couldn't manage the players and use them to their strengths. But, being that he's being very successful at a few places prior to coming to Washington, I don't believe he would have a deficiency in that regard, yet might just simply run out of time when his contract ends.

Don't get me wrong man, I'm not saying Mike can't turn this around, and I would like nothing more than to see that happen. I'm just saying up to now he hasn't shown the necessary strides that would warrant him living out his contract. I think this season will be very telling. And your Harbaugh example is a good one. Harbaugh did a great job of tailoring his system to his players strengths. The same could be said of his brother, very similar paradigm for both of those guys. There are still a few questions in my mind as to whether the acquisitions we made this offseason will ultimately be what's best for the team in the long run, but we did hit a brick wall the day before free agency, and for being handcuffed with stolen cap space I believe they've tried to find the most cost effective talent to improve in the areas where they feel it's required. Our secondary could still use a few upgrades, but all in all I think they've done better this offseason in attempting to fill need, than they have in the past. We'll see how it goes.

SirClintonPortis
05-15-2012, 10:30 AM
As for the no-huddle talk, RGIII will be a Peyton Manning with wheels, braids, and a different hue. :D

30gut
05-15-2012, 03:50 PM
I can't see us suddenly becoming a no-huddle team.
Don't get me wrong, I would love it.
Just don't see it happening.

MTK
05-15-2012, 03:53 PM
RG3 is going to have enough on his plate as it is. Not sure if going no-huddle is the best idea, at least right off the bat. Let's see how he picks things up.

CultBrennan59
05-16-2012, 11:31 PM
Set your DVR's for Jay Leno on thursday night. RG3 will be on as one of his guests.

NC_Skins
05-16-2012, 11:33 PM
Set your DVR's for Jay Leno on thursday night. RG3 will be on as one of his guests.

Leno sucks.

30gut
05-17-2012, 09:05 AM
I love hearing/reading about Mike Shanahan talking/gushing about Griff:

Transcript of Redskins coach Mike Shanahan on PFT Live | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/16/transcript-of-mike-shanahan-interview-on-pft-live/)

When I did look at Robert the first thing I did look at was his mobility. He’s just a fluid athlete, with rare speed, and you know, he can create all kinds of plays off schedule and really demoralize a defense. He threw well on the move and big time arm strength, you look for that big arm. A guy that can make all the throws and he make all the throws down field. I thought he had a lot of poise, he’s fearless in the pocket he wasn’t afraid to stay in the pocket and throw the ball and face some pressure....Robert who can make the type of plays he’s made, throwing the football, his mobility, his arm strength, his poise, you know, he’s a natural thrower. I think he’s got what you look for

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