REDSKINS4ever
07-12-2012, 08:54 PM
How is it that the Raiders spent a 4th round pick in the supplemental draft last year on Terrell Pryor and the Browns spend a 2nd on Josh Gordon this supplemental draft? The Browns must truly be desperate to build that team. After a 4-12 showing last season, it seems they'll do anything to build their team, even if it means wasting draft picks!
30gut
07-12-2012, 10:27 PM
Mike Holmgren is a very good coach, but a terrible GM.
skinsfaninok
07-12-2012, 11:09 PM
Mike Holmgren is a very good coach, but a terrible GM.
He's been there what? 3 years now right? I mean something should start happening now, just like Mike and Bruce in DC
30gut
07-12-2012, 11:22 PM
He's been there what? 3 years now right? I mean something should start happening now, just like Mike and Bruce in DCI guess?
But because Holmgren isn't coaching the team his litany of poor personnel decisions can't be mitigated by his coaching prowess.
And the team he's built thus far still has enough holes where success appears a longshot.
But, then again when you draft the best RB and have a decent OL all you really got to do is hand it off to him 300+ carries and use play-action.
RGIII
07-13-2012, 01:05 AM
I always thought a selection made in the supplemental draft translated into a later draft pick. For example, a second round selection would actually garner a third round pick in the following draft.
So CLE gets Gordon for a 2013 3rd round pick. (?)
MonkFan4Life
07-13-2012, 07:11 AM
No, they get him for a second in 2013
CRedskinsRule
07-13-2012, 07:45 AM
I always thought a selection made in the supplemental draft translated into a later draft pick. For example, a second round selection would actually garner a third round pick in the following draft.
So CLE gets Gordon for a 2013 3rd round pick. (?)
I believe you are thinking of the draft trade value chart. The supplemental draft is the actual round, so that Cleveland agreed to use next year's 2nd round pick on this guy.
ethat001
07-13-2012, 11:24 PM
We really cannot criticize this move.
1) Considering we spent two 2nd round picks on M.Kelly and D.Thomas in our draft a couple of years ago with Vinnnny. Wasting two draft picks on WR's who haven't done anything in 3 years --> was actually a worse move than this.
2) Considering we gave up 3 FIRST round draft picks a couple of months ago.
Anyway, IF Gordon is good-- then this was expensive for the Browns, but could make a lot of sense. They get one free year of experience by taking him in this draft instead of a draft pick next year, AND get a starting RB, QB and WR all in one draft. Could make them dramatically better within 2 years, and they had many extra picks these last two years from the Julio Jones trade last year anyway.
KLHJ2
07-14-2012, 12:07 AM
We really cannot criticize this move.
1) Considering we spent two 2nd round picks on M.Kelly and D.Thomas in our draft a couple of years ago with Vinnnny. Wasting two draft picks on WR's who haven't done anything in 3 years --> was actually a worse move than this.
2) Considering we gave up 3 FIRST round draft picks a couple of months ago.
Anyway, IF Gordon is good-- then this was expensive for the Browns, but could make a lot of sense. They get one free year of experience by taking him in this draft instead of a draft pick next year, AND get a starting RB, QB and WR all in one draft. Could make them dramatically better within 2 years, and they had many extra picks these last two years from the Julio Jones trade last year anyway.
While I agree that this could possibly generate the offense that they are looking for in reality it was a very risky move. A "no guts no glory" type of move. If it works out for them then great, but the odds are stacked way against them. Realistically it will take about 1 season for Gordon to get back to the level that he was at. Compound that with having to learn how to play at the next level and you have a recipe for failure. It would be one of the greatest comeback stories ever if he could accelerate his learning curve and become just a productive guy in a couple of seasons. Barring a miracle I do not see it happening.
CultBrennan59
07-14-2012, 12:37 AM
While I agree that this could possibly generate the offense that they are looking for in reality it was a very risky move. A "no guts no glory" type of move. If it works out for them then great, but the odds are stacked way against them. Realistically it will take about 1 season for Gordon to get back to the level that he was at. Compound that with having to learn how to play at the next level and you have a recipe for failure. It would be one of the greatest comeback stories ever if he could accelerate his learning curve and become just a productive guy in a couple of seasons. Barring a miracle I do not see it happening.
Aka a Jack Hoffman type of move...
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