2012 Training Camp Competitions Open Discussion

Breaking News: Dezmon Briscoe to the Redskins

Had a feeling this might happen when he got cut yesterday

Kyle has developed the talent and implemented a system for several years, excuses are done. This year its time to shut up and put up some numbers.

Let's not forget that at the most important position we have a rookie that didn't play in a pro system. All rookie QB's struggle. Even some of the great ones...Troy Aikman and John Elway had terrible rookie seasons. I expect RG3 to do the same. Especially early.

Let's not forget that at the most important position we have a rookie that didn't play in a pro system. All rookie QB's struggle. Even some of the great ones...Troy Aikman and John Elway had terrible rookie seasons. I expect RG3 to do the same. Especially early.

Cam Newton, Andy Dalton, Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco beg to differ.. Just because he's a rookie doesn't automatically equal struggles. Sure he will have rookie moments but him playing like a middle tier NFL QB isn't out of the realm of possibility. Just don't expect him to be a top 12 QB right away and you won't be disappointed.

Rookie QBs are much more pro ready than they were back in Elway and Aikman's day. RG3 isn't going to struggle in the same way they did.

Let's not forget that at the most important position we have a rookie that didn't play in a pro system. All rookie QB's struggle. Even some of the great ones...Troy Aikman and John Elway had terrible rookie seasons. I expect RG3 to do the same. Especially early.Even though Griff is a rookie QB I don't expect him to struggle the way you suggest.
Times have changed and recent success of rookie QB has been more the rule then the exception.
Mike Shanahan has spoken of putting the pieces around a QB to have success.
Obviously he feels the current team had the blocks to support that success.
If Griffin struggles then something is wrong, and I don't neccesarily mean with him.

Alright guys I'm being completely honest here.. Does anyone else find Shanahan is starting to go senile? The guy answering questions at the press conference today was not the Mike Shanahan I know.

Anyways, I like the Briscoe claim.

Alright guys I'm being completely honest here.. Does anyone else find Shanahan is starting to go senile? The guy answering questions at the press conference today was not the Mike Shanahan I know.

Anyways, I like the Briscoe claim.

How do you figure, sports fan?

How do you figure, sports fan?
What does being a sports fan have to do with it? I think the guy is starting to lose it, it's as simple as that.

What does being a sports fan have to do with it? I think the guy is starting to lose it, it's as simple as that.

Hahaha sorry wasn't trying to be a jackass. That was a direct quote from a tv show.

Alright guys I'm being completely honest here.. Does anyone else find Shanahan is starting to go senile? The guy answering questions at the press conference today was not the Mike Shanahan I know.

Anyways, I like the Briscoe claim.

You actually watch Shanny's pressers? Wow. That takes dedication, especially when you know the answer to every question before he says it.

As far as your question goes, I have no idea if he's senile or not. Does he still answer every question in coach-speak? If so, doubtful. Business as usual.

Or, if every question-answer exchange goes likes this, maybe you are onto something.

Reporter: Mike, what should we expect to see out of RG3 in the preseason?

Shanny: Huh? I told those kids if they didn't stay off my lawn I'm gonna raise cain.