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Beemnseven
02-24-2005, 04:44 PM
I like Mason too, but I keep hearing how little we have in cap room to sign a free agent.

To all the cap experts here, what caliber player can we honestly expect get in free agency? Is there enough room to sign both a wideout like Derrick Mason and, say, a solid cornerback if/when Smoot leaves?

offiss
02-24-2005, 04:59 PM
I see we are starting back on the Heath Miller nonesense again, I will say it again we do not have a major need for a TE that is the least of our problem's, and even if we needed a TE as if Cooley wasen't catching the ball better than any TE we have had since Didier we wouldn't be drafting Miller, Troy Williamson will be the guy he will be the player left, Minnesota will take William's, and Edward's will go top 5, if by some chance they are all gone when we pick and we trade down I will guarentee you BIG TIME HEATH will not be a player we draft in the first round.

MTK
02-24-2005, 05:01 PM
I like Mason too, but I keep hearing how little we have in cap room to sign a free agent.

To all the cap experts here, what caliber player can we honestly expect get in free agency? Is there enough room to sign both a wideout like Derrick Mason and, say, a solid cornerback if/when Smoot leaves?

Getting Samuels to restructure is the key

CRT3
02-24-2005, 05:04 PM
Beleive it or not I agree with you Offiss. Heath will not be picked by the Redskins. Expect a WR or a DE. But after March 2nd when FA starts we will probally know what and who they are looking at. Don't expect any late picks to pan out as our scouting department and Vinny have failed us in the past. They seem to make their 1st 2 picks count then fall to sleep. Charley Casserly and Bobby Beathered were great with the late picks. So we shall see.

Beemnseven
02-24-2005, 05:34 PM
offiss, crt3 -- I agree completely.

Think of how many passes Chris Cooley caught. Comparitively, he was a safety valve for the most part, the last option for Ramsey. And he was a fixture on offense for most of last year.

Tight ends in Joe Gibbs' system simply do not catch many passes. H-backs generally contribute a little more with the passing game, but that's due mainly to the design of the offense. Tight ends are pure blockers in Gibbs' scheme. To spend such a high round draft pick on a guy like Heath Miller would be a complete waste.

Let it be perfectly clear to everyone who reads this: WE WILL NOT SELECT A TIGHT END IN THE FIRST ROUND. We probably won't until much later in the draft if we do at all, and that will only be a block-first type of TE. Those are readily available in undrafted free agency, too.

We are set with Cooley, Robert Royal, and Koslowski. Anybody else they pick up will be somebody you've never heard of, and probably still won't hear much of when the 2005 regular season starts.

SKINSnCANES
02-24-2005, 05:52 PM
in the back of my mind Ive been putting Troy W. as the guy I want us to draft, but now with moss being traded he very well could be gone by 9 as well. There is something very good about this though, if a bunch of receivers jump up, that leaves a lot of those big name running backs, and a great opportunity for us to trade down and pick up some other picks

offiss
02-24-2005, 11:28 PM
in the back of my mind Ive been putting Troy W. as the guy I want us to draft, but now with moss being traded he very well could be gone by 9 as well. There is something very good about this though, if a bunch of receivers jump up, that leaves a lot of those big name running backs, and a great opportunity for us to trade down and pick up some other picks


Now if everyone listened to me and we lost that last game we would have our choice of WR's :D now we have to hope 1 of them slides to us, but I do think Troy will make it to 9.

offiss
02-24-2005, 11:34 PM
So long as Pak Man Jones is out there he just may be the player who deliver's us our WR the Titan's and the Vik's both need him, cleveland should be looking for a legititamate QB before they start looking for a WR to throw to but that's their decision.

SKINSnCANES
02-24-2005, 11:48 PM
SF - QB
Miami - QB or RB
Cleveland - QB or WR
Chicago - RB
Tampa - RB
Tennessee - WR or Corner]
Minnisotta - WR
Arizona - Saftey (They have Iffy)
Washington WR or DE
Detroit - TE or Saftey

My guess:
SF - Definitly a QB
Miami - Benson, hands down. If they end up getting a free agent hb they will go QB here.
Cleveland - QB, or they take Pac Man because of the new definsive mindset
Chicago - Either Edwards or Brown.
Tampa - Whichever Chicago doesnt take
Tennessee - lots of needs here, i dont see them going receiver though. I think they had good depth at receiver even without mason. I think they take dan cody here. They are losing a lot on defense and didnt replace kearse last year.
Minnisotta - They do not take a receiver here, they have receiver but need defense. I would say they take Derrick Johnson here but they just got a line backer. They could use another but I think this is where Spears goes. they have good DTs but could use an end
Arizona - They also definitly dont take a receiver. Arizona take Carnell Williams with this pick.
Washington - Now, assuming there was no trading this leaves the redskins with their choice or Williams or Williamson. Definitly a great opportunity for us to trade down, but you dont factor trades in mock drafts usually. Im going to go out on a limb and say we also do not take a receiver. I think this will be addressed with a medicore player in free agency because gibbs doesnt need or want big name receivers. We take Erasmus James with this pick. He would be top five if he didnt have that injury a year ago. Hes got huge upside as a pass rusher.

offiss
02-25-2005, 01:04 AM
My guess:
SF - Definitly a QB
Miami - Benson, hands down. If they end up getting a free agent hb they will go QB here.
Cleveland - QB, or they take Pac Man because of the new definsive mindset
Chicago - Either Edwards or Brown.
Tampa - Whichever Chicago doesnt take
Tennessee - lots of needs here, i dont see them going receiver though. I think they had good depth at receiver even without mason. I think they take dan cody here. They are losing a lot on defense and didnt replace kearse last year.
Minnisotta - They do not take a receiver here, they have receiver but need defense. I would say they take Derrick Johnson here but they just got a line backer. They could use another but I think this is where Spears goes. they have good DTs but could use an end
Arizona - They also definitly dont take a receiver. Arizona take Carnell Williams with this pick.
Washington - Now, assuming there was no trading this leaves the redskins with their choice or Williams or Williamson. Definitly a great opportunity for us to trade down, but you dont factor trades in mock drafts usually. Im going to go out on a limb and say we also do not take a receiver. I think this will be addressed with a medicore player in free agency because gibbs doesnt need or want big name receivers. We take Erasmus James with this pick. He would be top five if he didnt have that injury a year ago. Hes got huge upside as a pass rusher.

Don't see it SC, defiently a WR, not that I am against getting Jones it would be nice to swing a deal with Coles and land both that would make a trade with the Boy's ideal, they have the same need's as us I believe they will take Jones if he's available at 11, Parcell's know's he has to pressure the QB with his front 4 and he know's exactly how to use a player like Jones.

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