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SmootSmack
02-25-2005, 12:54 AM
From Friday's Washington Times:

San Francisco 49ers coach Mike Nolan referenced his background with Coles and said he would be interested. The Baltimore Ravens, according to a source, have done due diligence on Coles but are leaning toward signing a free agent. The New York Jets already have had discussions with Washington about bringing back Coles. And several NFL executives believe the Minnesota Vikings would be interested after this week's trade of superstar Randy Moss.

So this leads me to naturally conclude that we're close to sending Coles to San Fran for the number 1 overall pick :D

bedlamVR
02-25-2005, 01:49 AM
Y'know i just get the feeling this Coles thing just isn't going to happen. We have to restucture Samuels but that wa s a given from day one and I don't see us just gobbling up that room to release Coles .

We don't HAVE to do anything with Coles he is under contract and will return and play hard as he has said and we have X number of months of solid negoications to win him over to Gibbs overhaulled offence or arrange a release next year. It just strikes me as the Ramsey "I want a trade" deal last year and what happened there?

bedlamVR
02-25-2005, 01:52 AM
Also . How the hell do we pay No.1 pick in a year where we have no glaring weaknesses that can be addressed in the draft class that has no must have top guy. We need to trade down if anyone and this year it is a buyers market trades in the top 5 will be few and far between.

Daseal
02-25-2005, 01:54 AM
You trade it down - Bedlam.

SmootSmack
02-25-2005, 01:57 AM
Also . How the hell do we pay No.1 pick in a year where we have no glaring weaknesses that can be addressed in the draft class that has no must have top guy. We need to trade down if anyone and this year it is a buyers market trades in the top 5 will be few and far between.

I'm guessing you might be responding to my earlier post when I said we're clearly close to sending Coles to San Fran for the no. 1 pick

I was only joking, just making light of all the outrageous trade rumors we inevitably hear at this time of year

I can't predict the future but I'm almost sure it doesn't involve Coles for the 1st overall pick

Daseal
02-25-2005, 01:59 AM
You're right SS. Their 1st and 2nd rounders!

Beemnseven
02-25-2005, 09:27 AM
Seems to me u r saying that.

Wrong. Daseal said that being on the Redskins is 'insta-championship.'

I never said that. I said that if Chris Samuels is interested in a championship or at least putting his team in position to contend for one, he would restructure.

Getting something in return for Coles to help our team contend for a championship is not the same as saying it's an instant championship.

Daseal
02-25-2005, 09:30 AM
What I'm saying Beemn, is he probably has a better chance at a ring if he DOESN'T restructure and gets cut.

monk81
02-25-2005, 09:34 AM
SC,

In all fairness, we paid Coles $3 million more than what Coles was asking for because we needed to beat out the Jets' offer. Teams that have losing records and need to attract players in free agency consistently have to outbid teams with better records. We have losing a record and so we need to outbid teams like Philly, New England, etc.

And even if we manage to re-work Samuels contract....you can add another team that we need to outbid......Jerry Jones promised that he is going to very aggressive in free agency this year.....and they have tons of cap room....before Bledsoe $20 milliion.......at least thats what our paper here reported................

SkinsRock
02-25-2005, 09:47 AM
Ok, I've been away from the boards for a while, so here are my thoughts on the Coles situation (like anyone cares):

Coles needs a history lesson. He needs to look at the WR's from Gibbs' first tenure and he will see that they got plenty of work in his "ball-control" offense (a SB record 35 points scored in one quarter doesn't come from running the ball). Plus they are included in the top Skins WR's of all-time. Gibbs just needed a year to "get his feet wet" and has said that they will go downfield more this year.

The toe will be what hurts Coles or the Skins. If they try to trade him, it may keep them from getting what they want for him, and if they released him, it would keep him from getting as much money. Ironic, considering that I think that is what is behind this whole thing (Redskins want him to get the surgery and he doesn't). How does he know a new team wouldn't want him to do it?

If he is unwilling to give up the 5 million, the Skins should keep him to prove a point that anyone can't just leave regardless of the contract they signed...but I don't think they will.

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