Lotus
10-22-2012, 01:55 PM
I kind of gotta blame Williams for that. He's a veteran who got caught flat footed. I mean Jordan Pugh seemed to know exactly what he had to do. Wiliams got caught planted the other way and he doesn't have the speed to make up for it
I think that too. In that situation you just can't let a receiver get behind you so easily. Williams should have been taking a step or two back from the get-go.
But shouldn't a coach (like Haslett) be ensuring that everyone is doing that?
punch it in
10-22-2012, 02:52 PM
I think that too. In that situation you just can't let a receiver get behind you so easily. Williams should have been taking a step or two back from the get-go.
But shouldn't a coach (like Haslett) be ensuring that everyone is doing that?
No according to alot of people here the DC has absolutely nothing to do with a players position on the field or which way he runs or moved or anything. It is not something they practice or watch film on or ever even talk about alittle bit. Lol.
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Sometimes players just F up. Why is that so crazy of a concept?
Bucket
10-22-2012, 02:54 PM
Haslett not the problem with Redskins' D - NFC East Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/44679/haslett-not-the-problem-with-redskins-d)
What the coaching staff did not do is actually go out and cover the receivers themselves. And unfortunately for them, neither did the defensive backs assigned to Cruz. Cornerback Josh Wilson let Cruz get behind him, which he never should have done at that spot on the field. And safety Madieu Williams, astoundingly, did the same. So when Manning's pass found Cruz, the only hope either Redskin had was to catch him. And there was no chance of that happening.
So to those calling for the firing of defensive coordinator Jim Haslett, I pose this question: Who do you propose as his replacement, and would that person somehow be able to make Madieu Williams a better NFL safety?
Of course he wouldn't.
The Redskins' secondary is a wreck. The two players they hoped would start for them at safety haven't played a single snap this season. Tanard Jackson got hit with a season-long drug suspension on cutdown day, and Brandon Meriweather has suffered through a series of injuries that have delayed his Redskins debut until some time in the future. That means their best safety is Williams, who's a really good guy and gets the defense but doesn't have the physical skills at this point in his career to actually play it. The rest of the safety crew is Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes and Jordan Pugh. What this means is, when you call for double coverage at the end of a game like this and you're assigning a safety as part of that against one of the best receivers in the league, you're not working with top-level options.
Bucket
10-22-2012, 02:56 PM
No according to alot of people here the DC has absolutely nothing to do with a players position on the field or which way he runs or moved or anything. It is not something they practice or watch film on or ever even talk about alittle bit. Lol.
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DC call the defense. You can position anyway you like.. You wanna fake like you are blitzing to show a different look? You cover the way you are comfortable. As long as you are in position when the ball is snapped.
I'm sure Haslett would of liked to be out there and moving Williams around by the hips.
punch it in
10-22-2012, 02:57 PM
Sometimes players just F up. Why is that so crazy of a concept?
This was not a fumble or a int or something that a coach really cant help. This was a player who was completely out of position from the get go - it stinks of poor practice/ coaching.
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DynamiteRave
10-22-2012, 02:58 PM
Sometimes players just F up. Why is that so crazy of a concept?
It seems like people think we have Ed Reed and Polamalu back there. We have basically scrubs back there playing safety. I'm not giving M. Williams a pass, because he f'ed up big time. But I don't think Haslett OR Morris is responsible for that last play of the game.
punch it in
10-22-2012, 03:01 PM
DC call the defense. You can position anyway you like.. You wanna fake like you are blitzing to show a different look? You cover the way you are comfortable. As long as you are in position when the ball is snapped.
I'm sure Haslett would of liked to be out there and moving Williams around by the hips.
Why the hell would a safetey even think about blitzing in an obvious passing down when there is one minute left and the only thing you cant do is get beat long? Oh wait - because hasletts blitz schemes are usually called at the most in opportune times of a game. He must have been used to it. Haz always has stunk as a dc and always will. Dont base your opinion on what i say look at his track record. Its all public knowledge. Im totally done arguing about whether haz is the rite man for the job. This is insane. If we fired his ass today he would never get another job in the nfl again. That should tell u sonething.
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This was not a fumble or a int or something that a coach really cant help. This was a player who was completely out of position from the get go - it stinks of poor practice/ coaching.
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Meh, it stinks of a player who blew his assignment to me.
The coaches aren't on the sidelines with xbox controllers moving guys around.
firstdown
10-22-2012, 03:14 PM
To be honest it looked like the D backs thought Cruz was going to cut to make 1st down then he just ran by them.