Samari or Freddy?

where did lavar fail go to "return of lavar" read the epic battle of lavar and his values. its a long thread but full of oposition. I was on the side of lavar and don't understand why everyone feels we do not need him any more. I don't want to open up a can of worms but why is about half of us not on his side. He got hurt and we were better a year, on the other thread some said we were better because we didn't have him. Many didn't go that far but most were against him in some way. i don't know where he failed or where everyone felt that he wasn't a team leader.

Springs is a leader regardless of his time. T.O is a leader w/ 1 year i would say. Springs does the monday night show on comcast and he was devoted to the fans does this make him a leader, Griffin is also a leader you failed to mention but he has been here for a year too. Also how do you know who is the leader, what makes you feel that arrington is not the leader? if there is a reason i am willing to listen but i don't know where "he has failed" :(

I agree Bigskin. Good post.

I concur Matty, I believe William's likes Smoot, but for the same money likes Rolle a lot more, Daesel makes a good point about getting rid of a leader on defense, but a true leader lead's with his action's, besides that's what Gibb's is for, I have alway's felt verbal leader's are way overated, but I do understand his sentiment for Smoot as I have as well, but $10mil for Smoot is a very, very nice offer, we can't pay him like an elite CB because he is not. Rolle on the other hand is and elite CB. Perhap's this is being done to persuade Smoot to sign who know's, but if Smoot want's to make this about money after turning down a $10mil signing bonus, then we are showing no disloyalty by looking for the best bang for the buck.

very close to my opinion, i want smoot back but again i say there is a reason why williams is behind getting rolle. I mean if smoot doesn't want to sign i don't understand how we are turning our backs on him. I said before in other threads that i am all for lobbing but 32 hours from the dead line is not lobbing it is being stubborn, i said that if we didn't budge then it would be smoots job to budge. i don't care how that sounds but someone earlier said that smoot has expressed that he wants to be with us, i don't think he has done that.

I don't think he has failed either. I think simply him returning next year will add another dimension to our D and provide some much needed turnovers.

If Smoot goes we really have no true solid leader on defense. LaVar can't do it we have seen it before and he has failed.

Please tell me where LaVar has failed in the past? Unless you have been in the huddle during the game, how do you know who the true leader on our team is? It seems to me that you think Pierce could be one of our leaders next year. Yes, he is one of our best players, but if he can be a "leader" then what makes you think LaVar cant? If you mention the Redskins to anyone outside DC, Im sure most of them will think of LaVar. He is one of the top linebackers who has as much heart as Smoot if not more. I dont understand how our defense will be worse with LaVar in the lineup and why all of a sudden so many of you are against him just because he got hurt. Anyone can be a team leader if they want and I know someone will step up if Smoot leaves.

Ok guys, let's not turn this into another "Return of Lavar" thread..lol

that was epic!

Ok guys, let's not turn this into another "Return of Lavar" thread..lol

LOL that's the way it's headed

y? what did smoot do maybe he should beat the shit out of you and you'll do the dishes

all this women violence is funny to a pointBauer this was a joke not a belief so lighten up. As far as my opinion about Smoot its just that my opinion and im entitled to it. As far as your other comments towards me dont let it happen again or I will make you my bitch and your sister will be doing my dishes!

I think Bauer was jsut lookin for reasons as to why you hate smoot. I know its your opinion, but I would also like to know why you have been a "smoot hater" for a long time.

100 ha ha ha i got it