Adam Schefter this morning on Sports Fix

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los panda
11-02-2012, 02:11 PM
it's wilson. i honestly have no idea what you're watching on sunday's to be defending hall so vehemently. he's awful. check outsiders, check game tape, check his lowlight reels. awful.yeah but he always gives his best effort like when he brought gronkowski down...

scowan
11-02-2012, 02:22 PM
The only way the Skins defense wins is when the opposing team's QB is inaccurate. They have no pass rush or coverage skills, so we have to hope for an errant pass or a dropped ball. Its totally frustrating. No coverage what so ever.

MTK
11-02-2012, 02:24 PM
yeah but he always gives his best effort like when he brought gronkowski down...

Unlike Hall who just stood there like the play was over

los panda
11-02-2012, 02:26 PM
Unlike Hall who just stood there like the play was overoh man i was joking, i was referring to hall. you just reminded me that it was wilson who ended up bringing him down!

FRPLG
11-02-2012, 02:27 PM
Hall has always graded out poorly in coverage, near the bottom of the league in fact. Not sure what anyone really sees in him. In fact, Pro Football Focus has Hall rated as the No. 97 best cornerback out of 102 this season. Ugh.

He has been rated near the worst CB in the league for like 3 years running now. Not to be an ass honestly but those who think he isn't terrible and can't see that he is pretty clearly our worst CB just don't know how to evaluate the position. I'm not sure what they're seeing that makes them think that even sorry-ass C. Griffin isn't better. It baffles me. To be clear I am not saying our other CBs are any good. I am saying that DHall is undoubtedly a lot worse than even them.

There is a point of course where it doesn't matter how bad you are. DHall would be a better CB than say Perry Riley but I bet they'd both get beat just as much...because DHall is ALWAYS beat. You can't be worse than ALWAYS beat.

FRPLG
11-02-2012, 02:32 PM
Again the whole defense is bad though and right now we can't just sit hall because no one else can step up apparently.

No one? No one can go out there and get thrown at on 65% of the pass plays and get beat on 95% of them? I bet we have 10 guys on the team that can. They only thing he brings to the table in terms of value versus other CBs, and this is of clear value, is his ability to make plays on the ball when the situation presents itself. He has good hands and is very good at advancing turnovers. He is also a competent tackler for a CB. I do think DHall could play a decent safety for us. His coverage skills and play making ability could translate to mroe value at the position. I ma not sure why that hasn't happened. What we're doing now clearly is not working. I increasingly doubt Haslet's ability to use players appropriately.

skinsfaninok
11-02-2012, 02:33 PM
it's wilson. i honestly have no idea what you're watching on sunday's to be defending hall so vehemently. he's awful. check outsiders, check game tape, check his lowlight reels. awful.

I'm not defending the guy or saying he's so great, I would love to see him and jw both gone, I'm just saying Wilson isn't any better . Watch and see how much he gets burned it's just as much

Meks
11-02-2012, 02:42 PM
Hall has always graded out poorly in coverage, near the bottom of the league in fact. Not sure what anyone really sees in him. In fact, Pro Football Focus has Hall rated as the No. 97 best cornerback out of 102 this season. Ugh.

eh .. thats a piss poor ranking for overall performance IMO .. but thats just like the ranking, an opinion.

Chico23231
11-02-2012, 02:53 PM
Unlike Hall who just stood there like the play was over

was that the same play that Gomes and Reed tried to tackle Gronk and he broke both tackles at the same time? Ugh that safety play was just terrible, and hasnt really changed...

Evilgrin
11-02-2012, 02:53 PM
I don't think you can identify the No. 1 CB just based on watching their scheme. You'd have to ask coaches, I've heard he is viewed as the third CB. Maybe someone else can chime in. Wilson isn't great for sure, but his coverage is better then Hall.

thanks for the link Smoot

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