KC Chiefs' Player Commits Murder-Suicide

I agree.

Belcher is a killer in technical sense of the word, but like I said way earlier in this thread, rational people don't just go off and shoot people. Belcher obviously had issues of some sort.

Before he was a "killer" he was someone's son, a little girl's father, a teammate and a friend. There's nothing wrong with people remembering him as that and that only. Only WE know Belcher as a cold-blooded killer.

While his acts were detestable, because he took an innocent soul from this world, that doesn't mean he was a horrible man or father. From all accounts he was an otherwise decent (that doesn't mean he didn't F up) guy.

Sometimes otherwise normal people do horrible things. The only person who may have known what was wrong is dead and the only person who REALLY knew what was going on is also dead.

I hope everyone involved eventually finds peace from such a horrible incident.

Actually Rave if you kill someone you are a horrible person. If you rape someone you are a horrible person. If you beat someone to s bloody pulp you are a horrible person. If those things dont make you horrible what does? Doesnt mean Belchers friends should not remember the "good " Belcher - but ill ask you the same thing i asked Warriorz- if someone killed your sister/best friend - would you be ok with that person being memorialized or honored?

Actually Rave if you kill someone you are a horrible person. If you rape someone you are a horrible person. If you beat someone to s bloody pulp you are a horrible person. If those things dont make you horrible what does? Doesnt mean Belchers friends should not remember the "good " Belcher - but ill ask you the same thing i asked Warriorz- if someone killed your sister/best friend - would you be ok with that person being memorialized or honored?

As someone who HAS been raped and who HAS had people taken from me, yeah, I can understand because people have lives beyond said incidents. Intent means a lot in regards to what people do. People rape and regret it. People kill and regret it. Then there are those who have no remorse for their actions. Those that don't have remorse, ARE the horrible people.

Oddly enough, sometimes people make terrible decisions and act irrationally without thought.

But, punch_it_in- I understand why you would be so mad about what you experienced - cause from just reading what you described, I feel angry at the killer and sadden for everyone affected by it.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm willing to forgive those who make poor choices. If you lived a good life before and after the incident, I can chalk it up to some godless behavior and in time, forgive.

I think to make a sweeping generalization that Belcher is now a horrible person is kind of narrow. I've never done anything criminal in my life, but if I go out and hit and kill someone with my car, I don't think that makes me killer.

If I go out decide to mow down people with my car... Then I'll say I'm a bad person.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm willing to forgive those who make poor choices. If you lived a good life before and after the incident, I can chalk it up to some godless behavior and in time, forgive.

I think to make a sweeping generalization that Belcher is now a horrible person is kind of narrow. I've never done anything criminal in my life, but if I go out and hit and kill someone with my car, I don't think that makes me killer.

If I go out decide to mow down people with my car... Then I'll say I'm a bad person.did he accidentally shoot her?

I don't know, doubt anyone here does either, what Belcher's mental state was. And I especially know that I'm in no position to understand how his teammates are coping or how they should feel

Quoted for post strength.

did he accidentally shoot her?

Only he knows that.

It wasn't like there was a struggle with the gun, but I'm assuming because he killed himself afterward, he probably realized he F'ed up big time.

Premeditation means a lot in cases like this.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm willing to forgive those who make poor choices. If you lived a good life before and after the incident, I can chalk it up to some godless behavior and in time, forgive.

I think to make a sweeping generalization that Belcher is now a horrible person is kind of narrow. I've never done anything criminal in my life, but if I go out and hit and kill someone with my car, I don't think that makes me killer.

If I go out decide to mow down people with my car... Then I'll say I'm a bad person.

But see that's my point in all of this- whoever knew belcher and was affected by his act has a right to say or do anything in response to it (breaking laws and all of that excluded). But you have to respect it - good or bad. If you are an outsider you have no right to judge anyone's words or actions that were affected. Sort of calling the kettle black at this point - but Tom Jackson was wrong to say anything about what his team members were saying or doing.

But see that's my point in all of this- whoever knew belcher and was affected by his act has a right to say or do anything in response to it (breaking laws and all of that excluded). But you have to respect it - good or bad. If you are an outsider you have no right to judge anyone's words or actions that were affected. Sort of calling the kettle black at this point - but Tom Jackson was wrong to say anything about what his team members were saying or doing.

I agree with you. :)

As someone who HAS been raped and who HAS had people taken from me, yeah, I can understand because people have lives beyond said incidents. Intent means a lot in regards to what people do. People rape and regret it. People kill and regret it. Then there are those who have no remorse for their actions. Those that don't have remorse, ARE the horrible people.

Oddly enough, sometimes people make terrible decisions and act irrationally without thought.

Well first of all i am sorry you had such an awful thing happen to you. I dont really know you but i love u and think you come across as an awesome person. Much love.
As for the rapist To do it and than regret it. In my mind - too late. Too ****ing late.