Saints Bounty Penalties Vacated

I hope this gives us some leverage in getting 36 million in cap space back.

Why so?

Because Goodell wanted these guys to miss a lot of games and with Vilma the entire year. This might have costed Hargrove his career. The punishment didn't fit the crime and most people would agree with that. Obviously Paul T. did as well.

Next up: Returning the 36 million the NFL stole from the Redskins.

Because Goodell wanted these guys to miss a lot of games and with Vilma the entire year. This might have costed Hargrove his career. The punishment didn't fit the crime and most people would agree with that. Obviously Paul T. did as well.

Imo, Goodell has never cared about bounties. Goodell only wants to be able to go into the thousands of law suits from former players suing for concussions and be able to say that the players were doing it to themselves and that the league was trying to protect them. That the players were offering 5-10 thousand for possible career ending and life altering hits but the league did everything within its power to stop it. Goodell has what he wants, imo he couldnt care less about punishment for the players or about the bounties in the first place. Its a tool by the NFL to try and save billions in future law suits that we all know are coming.

Next up: Returning the 36 million the NFL stole from the Redskins.

IMO we'll never see 36 mil. returned. But we may see 18 mil., or whatever our current remaining balance is, returned.

IMO we'll never see 36 mil. returned. But we may see 18 mil., or whatever our current remaining balance is, returned.

I agree with that, and i think it would be an amicable compromise. Still, i'd love for the Giants to have to give up draft picks to the Redskins and Cowboys to punish Mara for being an a-hole.

I have to say, i think in some ways the penalties may have helped us in the long run, as it forced us to focus more on the draft. Perhaps we would have picked up an RB in free agency, and shanahan might not have drafted Morris, given that we already had Royster and Helu on the roster from the previous years draft. We certainly would have picked up a mediocre veteran QB, making it highly unlikely that we would have drafted Cousins.

Most of all, I think without the penatlies, we would have made a very strong push to sign Manning. And while Manning obviously would have been great for us for a couple years, it would mean that we either did not draft Griffin or, more stupidly, drafted him and kept him on the bench for a couple years.

Will Snyder keep playing chicken though? How far is he willing to go?

I have to say, i think in some ways the penalties may have helped us in the long run, as it forced us to focus more on the draft. Perhaps we would have picked up an RB in free agency, and shanahan might not have drafted Morris, given that we already had Royster and Helu on the roster from the previous years draft. We certainly would have picked up a mediocre veteran QB, making it highly unlikely that we would have drafted Cousins.

I doubt that would be the case, Shanny loves to draft RB gems, not sign someone through FA. The only time I can remember Shanny signed someone to be starting RB was one time when Shanny was in Denver, I couldn't remember his name but the RB was supposed to fit in Shanny's offense well but he couldn't stay away from trouble. Other than that and Hightower (trade), Shanny always find RBs through draft.

And it should be the Giants first rounder.That and giving us back our cap space and slapping Mara's team with a 36 mill cap penalty would be appropriate. F little Mr. " lucky they didn't loose draft picks" Mara and F the Giants.

While it's fun to talk about getting cap space back and/or punishing Mara and the Giants in some way, does anyone know if there's anything actually going on that would even address this issue with the NFL?