Small WR

I said it in another thread that I think this notion that you "need" a big WR isn't true.

Look at the Rams, Holt and Bruce aren't huge guys. Look at the Colts, they don't have any big WR's.

We had Rod Gardner for the last 4 years and he's considered a big possession type, where did that get us?

That being said I'd still like to see us grab Mike Williams, not just for his size but his overall talent and ability.

I agree, plus we need help on O not D! MIke Wiliams seems to be rare talent that you can't pass up on. Is 6'5 accurate? that is sick. I think we did that with Sean Taylor last year...he was to rare of talent to not take a chance on. He will compliment who ever is across from him, and I think he will make an impact by the end of season.

One thing we can't do though is sleep on T. jacobs!!!

Not only that, but they're on the verge of signing Plax. So, hopefully we'll be able to draft M.Williams.

Do you have any info that they are on the verge of signing Plax or is that just a guess? Every article I read today from Minnesotta papers indicates that the interst in Plax being on the Vikes is all from Plax's side so far.

I would love to see us get Mike Williams as well. With the signing of Patten, taking Williams at #1 won't seem as much of a gamble since we have other pretty damn good receivers backing him up in case he doesn't pan out.

I said it in another thread that I think this notion that you "need" a big WR isn't true.

Look at the Rams, Holt and Bruce aren't huge guys. Look at the Colts, they don't have any big WR's.

We had Rod Gardner for the last 4 years and he's considered a big possession type, where did that get us?

That being said I'd still like to see us grab Mike Williams, not just for his size but his overall talent and ability.

This is true, but those are also two teams that play in a dome and play more of a speed offensive game. You can definitely win with smaller WR's if they are good enough, but having a big target definitely helps you out if you are a little lacking in the QB area. Don't you think it would help Ramsey a lot to know that he has a WR that can outfight the DB's for a less than perfect pass?

Also is Holt small? I don't have his bio in front of me but he looks kind of lanky to me. That's not important though.

Do you have any info that they are on the verge of signing Plax or is that just a guess? Every article I read today from Minnesotta papers indicates that the interst in Plax being on the Vikes is all from Plax's side so far.


You're probably right. And it wasn't a guess....more like wishful thinking.

That same wishful thinking is what has me reading Minnesotta newspapers in the first place!

This whole talk about a team has to have a big WR is overated. Look at the superbowl MVP, 5' 9'" in his cleats. The Patriots Wr's are all small except for one.

he wasnt hurt last year, he played all 16 games. branch was hurt last year, thus he started 11 games. the year before that he got injured.

Though he was the third receiver on his team last year, look at his #'s compared to our # 1 guy last year. Not sure on exact #'s but fairly close. Patten was able to get down field also by his 18.5 yards per catch average.

Coles 90 catches, 960 yards and 1 TD

Patten 44 catches 800 yards and 7 TDS

Who had a more productive year and how many games did we lose by less than 7 sure would have liked to have had pattens six other TDS. Not all coles fault though.

No Question he is not our # 1 receiver, but very reliable. From what I understand about Edwards is he could be another Gardner, can make some spectacular catches, but sometimes those ones between the numbers casts some doubt in his mind and he will drop them.

I agree with all this, But Patten had Brady AND Coles had Burrnel who sucked and Ramsey who played well but he no Brady "YET"

Patten is not a # 1 but he a lot closer to a #1 WR then he is to a #3 WR.

I think that the popular misconception is that tall is good. In fact, some people openly trade tall for more important things. Like route running, run blocking, and catching(to a degree). Speed is very important, but to an extent, it's very similar to height, in that it creates separation. Height creates separation, if only at the point of reception. Speed generates openings for less accurate quarterbacks. I think that speed is something that we should focus more on because of Patrick's is more strength than touch.

The reason we like to reach for the taller receivers is because we cant get out of our heads how good Randy Moss and Terrell Owens are. There are two of them, and a shit load of teams. So I would encourage us to not trade important characteristics, like route running, for size. Timing, and practice will be the key to Patrick's success. Not playing 500 with the ball, which is not Joe Gibb's style anyway.

In conclusion, tall helps. That is all. And i would rather see David Patten run a precise 12 yard out with the ball waiting for him when he turns, than see Plaxico win a jump ball competition 35 yards down the field. Because I believe in consistency, which route running and precision provide.