Societal Decay - Henson Ong

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Giantone
02-25-2013, 03:49 PM
Please show any evidence you have for the NRA justifying the murders of 20 kids, or is this yet another of your poorly constructed sentences that adds nothing to the discussion?

The NRA response to the killings in Conn and the Ad using the presidents children are proof enough for me.

Giantone
02-25-2013, 03:52 PM
I would agree. No one here is arguing that we arm everyone. You could also include NOT having to keep and bear arms.



That's how it currently works. I had to pass a basic firearms exam, then if you opt for a CCW there are even more rigorous tests etc. Certain people lose their right to have a firearm, like felons.



And they're not. It's a right that your forfeit if you demonstrate you can't be responsible.



So what about Gun shows and lets say I sell my guns to joe Smith next door nothing illeagel about is there,no,do I have to perform rigorous tests etc on them,no.

firstdown
02-25-2013, 04:18 PM
So what about Gun shows and lets say I sell my guns to joe Smith next door nothing illeagel about is there,no,do I have to perform rigorous tests etc on them,no.

All Lic gun dealers have to do back ground checks at gun shows.

RedskinRat
02-26-2013, 01:51 PM
Correct:

NRA Stand and Fight: We Are America - YouTube

RedskinRat
02-26-2013, 02:11 PM
Prime example of why Gun Free Zones are only good for criminals:

Campus Rape Victim Amanda Collins Responds to Colorado State Rep. Joe Salazar - YouTube

Tough to hear her recounting the crime.

Alvin Walton
02-26-2013, 03:30 PM
All Lic gun dealers have to do back ground checks at gun shows.

Thats not true for rifles.
Not in Michigan anyways.
I've bought plenty of bolt action rifles at gun shows and all I needed was a drivers license and they just record info from it or take a digital picture of it and file it.
And you cant buy a pistol without first getting a permit from the cop shop so there is no need for a background check after that, the cops have already done it.

Alvin Walton
02-26-2013, 03:35 PM
So what about Gun shows and lets say I sell my guns to joe Smith next door nothing illeagel about is there,no,do I have to perform rigorous tests etc on them,no.

It all depends on what kind of gun and what the state laws are.
Its not that simple.

firstdown
02-26-2013, 03:37 PM
Thats not true for rifles.
Not in Michigan anyways.
I've bought plenty of bolt action rifles at gun shows and all I needed was a drivers license and they just record info from it or take a digital picture of it and file it.
And you cant buy a pistol without first getting a permit from the cop shop so there is no need for a background check after that, the cops have already done it.

Here in Va there is no check if your buying the gun at a gun show from an individual. If its a lic. gun dealer then a back ground check is done for any type of gun.

Giantone
02-28-2013, 04:25 AM
Living here in Maryland I will admit this surprised me.

Washington Post poll finds support for stricter gun control laws in Maryland - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/washington-post-poll-finds-support-for-stricter-gun-control-laws-in-maryland/2013/02/26/71fdabc0-7f98-11e2-8074-b26a871b165a_story.html)

Maryland residents overwhelmingly support Gov. Martin O’Malley’s plan (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-14/local/36322986_1_gun-control-package-gun-control-measures-gun-control-debate) to force gun buyers to submit to fingerprinting, safety training and more background checks, according to a new Washington Post poll (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/polling/marylanders-support-several-gun-restrictions-post/2013/02/26/52b32790-8033-11e2-a671-0307392de8de_page.html).
Across the state, fully 85 percent back the governor’s licensing plan and 73 percent do so “strongly.” They also support banning high-capacity ammunition clips and assault weapons — two other portions of O’Malley’s (D) bill, which in the wake of the December school shooting in Newtown, Conn (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-12-22/national/36017008_1_violent-video-games-lanza-twitter-account)., would give Maryland among the nation’s strictest gun-control laws (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-01-18/local/36409723_1_gun-owners-gun-control-package-gun-licenses).

Alvin Walton
02-28-2013, 07:09 AM
Jeez I am so tired of hearing about high cap magazines.
There are so many ways around that its effing ridiculous.

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