Shanahan: "the most underrated player in the history of the game"

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Skinzman
03-01-2013, 10:06 AM
He was way overrated, but in fairness, by alot of people.

There is a difference between being overrated and being misused. The Eagles misused him horribly. Nhamdi is a shut down corner (at least was before joining the eagles), and the eagles had him standing in soft zones.

Could you imagine if a team told Deion Sanders to stand in the flat and wait for a RB or TE to come to your zone? Or to just run straight back 40 yards and cover a deep third of the field? That would have turned Deion from a HOFer to a quality return man.

What Nhamdi was good at was taking the best receiver out of the offense. The eagles had him jumping TE flat patterns when the TE was the third option.

Evilgrin
03-01-2013, 10:32 AM
In oakland he saw about 3 balls a game, not he gets a dozen.

Skinzman
03-01-2013, 11:43 AM
He got 3 a game at Oakland because people knew better than throw at him in man coverage. They dont throw at him now, they throw at his zone. Because OC's know he struggles in determining which man to shade over to in zone coverage, especially if you send a receiver into and then out of his zone before sending a second receiver to target his zone.

Put him in man to man, and the other team settles for throwing 3 balls to their best receiver. At least that happened during his days in Oakland. Not sure if rotting in Philly the last couple of years killed his confidence or not, as that is huge for CB's.

firstdown
03-01-2013, 12:19 PM
You also have to remember that was a comment MS made before the teams played the up comming Sunday. That's how a smart coach talks before to team play each other.

saden1
03-01-2013, 04:48 PM
He got burned a lot but you have to think about the scheme Philly has been running the last two years and their lack of safety talent. It has been a pretty dysfunctional defense and I would think playing under those circumstances doesn't bring the best out of people.

Do I think Nnamdi is as good as he was 5 years ago? Not a chance. Do I think he can thrive under the right circumstance? Absolutely. He got burned by RG3 but who hasn't? Especially when a team has a mediocre safeties.

Schneed10
03-01-2013, 04:53 PM
He doesn't fit Haslett's scheme any better than he fit Philly's. He's a great press-man guy, but in a zone scheme he struggles.

REDSKINS4ever
03-11-2013, 11:38 PM
5 years ago Shanahan had a point.

Now? I'm sure would have a different take.

There's so many indirect twists with Mike Shanahan says that nobody ever thinks he's telling the truth even when he's telling the truth.

The Goat
03-12-2013, 01:09 AM
I'd be happier with DHall and his cheaper contract.

The Goat
03-12-2013, 01:14 AM
Like to pose this question to the "brains" around here: do we ask a lot of our corners? Schematically wise I think we do. Aside from the Steelers few teams (successfully) use the corner blitz. Our late season success saw a lot of that kind of scheming btw. Sure, Orakpo will be back. Is he gonna change everything? I hope not if you get my drift.

Hall knows the scheme and plays it well when he's serious out there. Whatever he's lost in talent is off-set by experience and knowledge. I highly, highly doubt there's a CB in draft/FA who would overall outperform Hall next season as a Redskin.

donofriose
03-12-2013, 08:29 AM
Like to pose this question to the "brains" around here: do we ask a lot of our corners? Schematically wise I think we do. Aside from the Steelers few teams (successfully) use the corner blitz. Our late season success saw a lot of that kind of scheming btw. Sure, Orakpo will be back. Is he gonna change everything? I hope not if you get my drift.

Hall knows the scheme and plays it well when he's serious out there. Whatever he's lost in talent is off-set by experience and knowledge. I highly, highly doubt there's a CB in draft/FA who would overall outperform Hall next season as a Redskin.

Seeing as how only one corner allowed more yards than Hall this entire year, and seeing as how his value was no where near what the Skins would have to pay him, I do not think it will be hard to find a replacement for basically one of the worst values for a corner in the NFL.

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