Pro-gun article


Monkeydad
02-18-2014, 02:46 PM
CRedskinsRule, you put up a link for drowning.



Males: Nearly 80% of people who die from drowning are male.2
Children: Children ages 1 to 4 have the highest drowning rates. In 2009, among children 1 to 4 years old who died from an unintentional injury, more than 30% died from drowning.1,2 Among children ages 1 to 4, most drownings occur in home swimming pools.2 Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects).1 Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.1
Minorities: Between 2005 and 2009, the fatal unintentional drowning rate for African Americans was significantly higher than that of whites across all ages.2 The disparity is widest among children 5-14 years old. The fatal drowning rate of African American children ages 5 to 14 is almost three times that of white children in the same age range.2



From the article GiantOne posted, as it substantiates what I've been saying:

If you look at homicide as a function of age, you’ll see that there is a peak between 18 and 20, Webster said. “So for this very high risk group of 18- to 20-year olds".

And from another CDC report:

Nearly 800 children under 14 were killed in gun accidents from 1999 to 2010, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

So I'd hazard a guess that whilst it's a tragedy that 800 kids die, possibly because of their parents' blase attitude to gun safety, it's far from the 3,000 figure and a long way off the 10,000 that's used to scare the uninformed pearl-clutchers.

Research shows that storing guns locked and unloaded reduces the risk of both injuries and suicide by about 70%, according to a 2005 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association.


You're onto something. I'm not the best swimmer, I tend to sink because of my low bodyfat...but I can handle a pistol.

I am more afraid of deep water than firearms.


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Monkeydad
02-18-2014, 03:17 PM
Hey, how did they kill so many people without guns?


Pa. Craigslist killing suspect claims 22 others (http://news.yahoo.com/pa-craigslist-killing-suspect-claims-22-others-202532190.html)


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HailGreen28
02-18-2014, 05:39 PM
Even if your claims were true, the best thing parents could do is join the NRA and take advantage of their training courses. The NRA has done more to prevent accidents than any anti-gun law has. They've educated millions on gun safety and proper and responsible ownership.

I'll make my next donation in your name. It's for the children. ;)(Bold mine)

This latest claim of giantone's is probably a total falsehood. (surprise) Historically, anti-gun groups cite fatalities numbers that include young adults like teenagers age 18-22 in gang related activities, and tout them as "children".

Giantone
02-18-2014, 07:02 PM
The only people who are going to obey more gun laws are law abiding citizens who don't go around shooting people anyway.


yeah right .

Shooter in Loud Music Killing Felt Victimized, Tapes Reveal - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooter-loud-music-killing-felt-victimized-tapes-reveal-n33196)


All you have to do is say you thought ,he had a gun and you can kill anyone, no proof needed .

Giantone
02-18-2014, 07:26 PM
(Bold mine)

This latest claim of giantone's is probably not a total falsehood. .

The NRA taken down in Rhode Island by one student from Brown .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmaIB_MYSx8

Buffalo Bob
02-18-2014, 08:08 PM
yeah right .

Shooter in Loud Music Killing Felt Victimized, Tapes Reveal - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooter-loud-music-killing-felt-victimized-tapes-reveal-n33196)


All you have to do is say you thought ,he had a gun and you can kill anyone, no proof needed .

What? You make it sound like he got away with something, the dude is going to get a minimum of 60 years. I would hate to ask what new gun laws you would write if you were the first dictator of the USA. Go ahead and list them and I will tell you how they won't work.

RedskinRat
02-18-2014, 08:42 PM
The NRA taken down in Rhode Island by one student from Brown .


Sam Bell, couldn't get his way using the legislative process, so he looks for the weasel route.

RI assault weapons ban fizzles in General Assembly (http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode-island/2013/07/07/assault-weapons-ban-fizzles-general-assembly/8jQLGDceji910OIZ9lWAPM/story.html)

In response to the proposals, gun rights supporters held rallies of their own that attracted thousands to the Statehouse to protest what they said were politically motivated attempts to take away their 2nd Amendment rights. Many lawmakers agreed.

The bills that did pass attracted support from both sides and was pushed through nearly unanimously. Rep. Mike Chippendale, R-Foster, one of the leading opponents of the proposed ban on assault weapons, said he was pleased both sides were able to work together to create proposals that didn’t infringe on gun owners’ rights. He said the more ambitious gun control proposals wouldn’t have stopped gun crime or prevented another massacre.

Judging by the video it looks like Sam Bell couldn't defend himself from an angry toddler. I'm sure he'll have a stellar career suing people or businesses that he doesn't like.

RedskinRat
02-18-2014, 08:45 PM
(Bold mine)

This latest claim of giantone's is probably a total falsehood. (surprise) Historically, anti-gun groups cite fatalities numbers that include young adults like teenagers age 18-22 in gang related activities, and tout them as "children".

Yup. I've been saying that for years.

When you drill down into the data (which will make you really unpopular with the hippie-tree-hugging-firearms-hysteria group) you'll find the numbers absolutely astonishing.

Of course THAT wouldn't be rational, but why should THAT stop the Unicorn groomers?

HailGreen28
02-18-2014, 08:47 PM
The NRA taken down in Rhode Island by one student from Brown .LMAO! RedskinRat already covered this, it's kinda ironic the last two individuals you posted this thread (one fictional telling a story based loosely on reality, and an actual person telling a story based loosely on reality) are both wrong in their respective mediums. :laughing-

Monkeydad
02-19-2014, 10:13 AM
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This latest claim of giantone's is probably a total falsehood. (surprise) Historically, anti-gun groups cite fatalities numbers that include young adults like teenagers age 18-22 in gang related activities, and tout them as "children".

So an 18-year old is a child if they get shot but they are adults when they need an abortion or want to smoke pot and drive...makes perfect sense.

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