NC_Skins
04-23-2013, 12:12 AM
That theory only holds water as far as Niles Paul, and B Banks before that. What, are you telling us Paul forgets how to catch, run routes and block every game but does it to perfection on the weekdays? C'mon man.
You could make the argument Shanny rewards "potential" but even that has exceptions.
Niles Paul is basically third string. He hasn't even beat out Paulsen for the position. They had him at 3rd string for his potential, not because he was a polished product. That is what you are supposed to do with guys with high upsides. Also, Paul plays special teams, Cooley does not.
Skinzman
04-23-2013, 02:54 AM
All good points my man. The flip-side is Davis is returning from injury and has an otherwise checkered past. Maybe it's just me, but I don't trust Davis to be "there" consistently. And I'm a big fan of Lunch Pale Logan, but my whole point is behind him we basically have nothing for TE. It's a tough sitz to be sure, but adding a quality TE not only gives us security against Davis' injury/suspension concerns, but it also gives us leverage in negotiations with him next year, and he's already shown he's going wherever he gets the biggest paycheck.
For those wringing their hands about our WR corp, I would say TE is yet a bigger concern, behind FS and RT.
But the same logic can be applied to the WR position with the expiring contracts next year (Moss and Morgan), and concerns of Garcon's foot this year.
Throw in that its also possible for a 3rd string TE (whether that be a rookie or Cooley) to never get on the field except special teams and be a decent sized drop from Paul on special teams. We could actually get worse since Paul has shown something there. Hes not the best at catching, but definitely gives it up as a gunner.
I still think we only take a TE if its BPA. Give me a solid RT in the draft, and we can use Polumbus as the number 3 blocking TE for all I care.
Nothing at TE? Exaggerate much?
JoeRedskin
04-23-2013, 11:27 AM
Nothing at TE? Exaggerate much?
<sitting quietly in the corner, laughing to myself>
firstdown
04-23-2013, 12:12 PM
You failed! To recognize they didn't work Cooley into the gameplan. He made the most out of his one opportunity.
LOL. I bet Shanny drafts a TE. We need someone behind Davis and Paulsen.
I didn't fail to recognize anything. I'm sure the coaches gave Cooley a chance in practice as well in a few games. If he is not performing in practice the coaches will not give him the time on the field. I was one of the guys who thought Cooley still could play but he has proven me wrong. There is a reason no one was knocking at his door when he was sitting at home. I'd love if he could prove me wrong but I don't think it will happen.
Lotus
04-23-2013, 12:41 PM
As far as I am concerned, anyone with eyes last year saw that Cooley was done. Period. Scheme and "chances" had nothing to do with it. I'm a Cooley fan...but stick a fork in him.
Monkeydad
04-23-2013, 01:29 PM
We need to move on from the mindset of the Vinny Cerrato era where we'd cling to aging vets like Brian Kozlowski and Todd Yoder out of nostalgia and loyalty over what's good for the team's future.
The Goat
04-23-2013, 01:47 PM
Nothing at TE? Exaggerate much?
I don't know what you're referring to per se, but if it was my comment that behind Paulsen we don't have anything solid at TE beyond this season...you're gdamn right I said it :)
Bishop Hammer
04-23-2013, 02:07 PM
Cooley will always be a true Redskin. He was a lot of fun to watch in his prime.
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good stuff; Cooleys one of my all time favorite Redskins. I'm glad we had him for so many years reping the B&G.
Monkeydad
04-23-2013, 02:27 PM
I don't know what you're referring to per se, but if it was my comment that behind Paulsen we don't have anything solid at TE beyond this season...you're gdamn right I said it :)
How many teams (other than NE) actually have a solid 3rd-string TE?
TE is not an urgent area of need. I don't think we should use a draft pick on a TE in the first 6 rounds with much more pressing needs at other positions.
I'm expecting Shanallen to wheel and deal and get us MINIMUM 10 picks by the end of the draft...maybe a dozen, similar to 2011 when they boosted the number of picks from 6 to 12 by the end.
Washington Redskins 2011 NFL Draft Grade: An "A", Despite Not Drafting a QB | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/687248-washington-redskins-2011-nfl-draft-grade-an-a-despite-not-drafting-a-qb)