Setting Expectations

wow this guy contradicts himself more than the bible. in one breath he"s saying the redskins should not have let pierce go. in the next he"s saying we arent the patriots and can not just plug anybody into williams defensive system and have it work. correct me if im wrong but i believe that is exactly what we did with pierce.

Yeah, the whole article has 'Burn the witch' all over it, thankfully Gibbs and Co. will hold this thing together with dignity.

I think had we stayed the course with ol' Norv and Brad Johnson, we'd have been a perrenial playoff team.

Where did you hear that we got a 4th rounder for Gardner? I was hoping for atleast a 3rd.

Didn't hear for sure, just guessing.

I think now we are taking the steps to gain stability. we will be better next season. I do disagree with gibbs in some aspects, but hey thats life. I trust that they are trying in their best intrest to get quality players, who care more about winning rather than their own personal glorification.

overall i guess i hate this off season too but..

we had a good defense and bad offense and we gave up allittle on d to get a better offense. I just wondered in a report it said that coles and gardner talked together about how much they hated the offense. i mean how can a team be good when both of the WR don't want to be there and are upset. I then had to agree for the coles trade. We got Moss in return and he may prove to be better and we got patten. HERE IS a little info... out of all the recievers that got 40 or more passes i looked at the yards per catch and Ashley lelie was 1 then MOSS THEN PATTEN! that isn't bad. They got little amount of catches because moss was on a run team that ran well over 50 % i think they ran like 52- something and through like 43- something but i am not sure. Patten caught more than deion branch and was number two on the team in catches. Also we got rabach which will help our offensive line, on paper we have one of the better o-lines but raymer was a weak link and now that is fixed.
WE FIXED OUR OFFENSE FOR THE BETTER

DEFENSIVLY
Yes we lost one of the best in both smoot and pierce at thier respectable positions but we must remember niether of these two were at that position before the season started. We don't need BIG names to be good on D it seems that they all step up anyways, we won that last game against the vikes when they were trying w/o smoot and springs came out many times and we still did well. I am not saying that we don't need smoot but we can live w/o him and we shouldn't plummet in the defensive rankings nor should the vikes get amazing w/ him. Pierce i truely wanted more than smoot because i saw that we had no one to back him up but if barrow gets better he will dominant and possibly better than pierce but if not and that is the way it seems we may get derrick in the draft. Today someone told me that he had heard that Gardner may go to the Browns and we would switch our first round picks in return that would make us 3 and able to do what ever the hell we want exept get a new QB. if not we will get somin in return for gardner as espn said that he may be the hottest WR in the FA

Bottom line our D got worse but i think we will manage but our offense got better and that is what we need, so don't give up our number 1 problem on our team was the passing game being deep, reports earlier in the year said that it seems that he was scared that ramsey wasn't getting enough time in the pocket and that was true, we will get better on o-line and our passing game will improve because of that and b/c of our new speedy wr. Our running game should also improve

have faith playoffs for sure!!

I think these idiots like Mike Wise are missing the point of the whole thing.

Even if we did have cap space, we wouldn't extend bigger offers to Smoot and Pierce because:

1. You can't have a young-in like Pierce making more money than Marcus Washington, who was our best LB last year, and the only Pro Bowl starter.

2. You can't have a relative young-in like Smootie making more money than Springs, who was clearly the best CB last year.

If Smoot/Pierce were offered more money than their superior counterparts, what message would that send to the latter? I think it would distort incentives even more.

Too bad we lost both these guys, but its best this way given the fact that they weren't willing to accept less than Marcus Washington and Springs. This way, we are building around the people that want to be Redskins, and including only those that want to be here - a la the New England team model. The defense will be fine without them, and we will hopefully draft some defensive players this year, who will help maintain continuity in the defense for atleast the next 3 years.

I think had we stayed the course with ol' Norv and Brad Johnson, we'd have been a perrenial playoff team.

Speaking of Norv, did you guys see that press conference with him and Randy Moss? Norv's face had that look of "yeah, I just got the best wideout in the game, but I'm going to need pepto for the next few seasons."

gortiz, i totally agree with you. if the Skins had some stability over the past 5 years, there would have been a steady ship, as opposed to the rocky one they are currently on.

and personally, i would have liked to see Martyball stay in DC. if you look at the stats from that year, his offense was actually pretty balanced (490 carries for 1948 yards [appx 4 yds/carr] vs. 238 completions on 432 passes for 2716 yards [appx 6 yds/attempt])...and that was with Tony Banks at the helm. i was one of the minority who was furious when Spurrier was hired...

I wasn't happier about the Spurrier hire either........that was one of Snyder's
"sexy" signings that failed................ That's why I think with Joe and charge we just have to have some patience he will make sure the organization gets on the right track..........

I understand we are trying to right the ship but Pierce and Smoot deserved more because of loyalty has coach GIBBS read Machiaveli? We got a 40 million dollar man on the bench why not make him restructure?? We need to be fiscally responsible but with that much dead money on the bench you can never convince me its about fiscal responsibility.... SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT? its disturbing.

Where did you hear that we got a 4th rounder for Gardner? I was hoping for atleast a 3rd.

Some said the interest for Gardner was a mid round draft pick.......we speculated it might be a 4th..................Personally, I don't think Mr. Dropsy aka Gardner would merit a 3rd............