Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

It would seem that we're writing off any possibilities of drafting a AAA WR, but didn't Gibbs state last year going into the draft that we were going after the best talent that's available? Would there be any indication that his philosophy will be different this year?

Ramseyfan is exactly right. Our WR corps, which was subject to innumerable criticisms last year, is actually worse. We have two new players, but that is meaningless, since they are both worse than the guys they are purportedly replacing (Moss > Coles, Patten > Gardner). Believe me, I love the attitude change, but the skills are not improved. That is why we need a guy who could be a true #1 in Mike Williams.

A DE or a CB is a decent fallback plan, but they should be just that: fallback plans, if we simply cannot get Mike or Braylon. There are no DEs worth taking at 9, and there is incredible CB depth in this draft. We could get a good CB in the 3rd round who isn't distinctly less talented than Rolle or Jones.

For those reasons, I advocate this course of action:
-Trade Rod Gardner to Cleveland for their 3rd round pick (#67).
-Trade that pick (#67) and our first rounder (#9) to the Titans for their 1st rounder (#6) or trade #9, #67, and our 6th rounder (#168) or a future 4th to the Bucs for their 1st rounder (#5). It seems like a lot to give up, but it really is not that much to secure a guy who will very likely be a top WR in the league for years.

Draft (assuming we trade with Titans):
1. Mike Williams, WR, USC
3. Darrent Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
4. Jovan Haye, DE, Vanderbilt
6. Dave Kashetta, TE, Boston College
7. Lang Campbell, QB, William and Mary

ignore my boston post before cuz he already signed with the 49ers

http://www.49ersnews.com/street.html (http://www.49ersnews.com/street.html)

Riggo44:

If Courtney Brown were available AND IF I had any reason to hope that Courtney Brown could stay healthy, I'd consider him a good guy to sign.

However, other than the fact that Courtney Brown and Lavar Arrington played on the same team at Penn State, I think it is a stretch to call Brown, "LaVar's buddy". It would not surprise me to learn that they had not spoken more than a half dozen times since leaving PSU.

Courtney Brown's problem from about the 10th game of his NFL career to today has been "the injury bug". I suspect his potential will never be "achieved" because of those injuries; and so even if he's a free agent, I'd spend only a VERY modest sum to get him here.

He means Mike Williams.

Here's a "dose of reality" for you, Bosshog. Our receivers are unproven and need to be worked on. For all we know Moss may walk after this year, Patten has only ever been a #4 in a good offense, Jacobs hasn't seen the field, we've seen what thrash does as a starter, and McCants until I [b]see{/b] otherwise is still in Gibbs doghouse. If we have a chance to get Edwards or Williams - take it. No need to draft a #2 we have four of those. CB isn't a huge concern, though it should be addressed in the near future. We have lots of young guys with talent that our coaching staff wants to look at.
ummmm patten was a #2 for the pats, lol and moss was a #1 two seasons ago and would have been last season. so get ur shit straight, our wr's are proven but jacobs and mcants as "EVERYDOWN" wr's.

Boss Hog, Marlin Jackson with our 1st pick? Now that would be a reach. And picking the kids from hampton so he can return balls because of speed is also quite a reach. While speed is great it does not translate into a great returner. Plus with Thrash, Moss, Brown, and you heard it here Morton (ughhh) we have plenty of good ones already.

Marlin Jackson, get real with that one, you must be a diehard Wolverines fan cause only a Michagan alum would make that pick. I agree reciever is pretty much covered but they still might pick one, you never know. Rolle if he is still there will be the pick. He is smart and big which is the type of corner these days that is needed.

Also we have a very good chance of picking a DE with number 9 or the 1st pick in round 2. Your statement "Remember we had guys like Chris Clemons, Demetric Evans and Ron Warner wrecking havoc" What games were you watching cause if I am correct between the 3 of them they had 6 sacks. Clemons the DE did not even play last year, but his brother the LB played. They hardly wrecked havoc, what the Redskins did alot was smoke and mirrors to free up 1 or 2 players for a sack. Double corner blitzs and zone blitzs were the norm. This is how we got pressure.

ummmm patten was a #2 for the pats, lol and moss was a #1 two seasons ago and would have been last season. so get ur shit straight, our wr's are proven but jacobs and mcants as "EVERYDOWN" wr's.

Moss WAS the Jets #1 WR a year ago, but he was set to become the Jets #3. I hardly think that establishes him as a "proven" wideout. He had ONE, count em', ONE good year (Gardner also had a 70+ catch, 1,000+ yard season). He had fewer catches last season than Rod Gardner...who few think is proven.

Patten was argably anywhere from the #2 to the #4 wideout for the Pats. David Givens appeared in 1 less game than Patten and had 12 more catches. Moreover, the Pats spread the ball around so much because they relied on depth more than stars. Finally, in EIGHT seasons, Patten has yet to crack the 900 yard mark in a season, let alone the 1,000 yard mark. He'd had ONE season of 60+ catches. So, I'm not sure how he can be considered a "proven" starting-caliber wideout.

Thrash....proven? Okay, we just disagree on that one.

McCants....proven? Proven what? That he can be inactive for 11 games last season on a wide recieving corps ridiculed by many posters on this site and implicitly by Gibbs.

Some of these guys have a lot of promise (Moss, Jacobs, McCants), but it's a HUGE stretch to say they're "proven" guys.

Between our ENTIRE recieving corps, I count ONE, UNO, a SINGLE 1,000 yard season. Other than Thrash, the only guy who has even been considered a possible true #1 wideout is Moss (who, as noted has only 1 1,000 yard season under his belt). How is that proven?

I still think the general consensus is that we take Williams if he is available. That being said, I also wouldn't be too upset to take a CB first and a DE second in the draft. Just as I have (and Daseal) have been saying, give Daniels a chance!

If Williams is there at #9 I don't see a better value for the pick.

Most definitely. I'm just worried about the Titans right now... I'd much rather just see them take Pac Man and deal with it.