over the mountain
09-06-2013, 01:43 AM
i thought RG did a great job knowing when to keep it or hand it off to morris. i trust RG to run the RO
RGIII cleared to start week 1over the mountain 09-06-2013, 01:43 AM i thought RG did a great job knowing when to keep it or hand it off to morris. i trust RG to run the RO whistler 09-07-2013, 01:13 PM Jim Harbaugh: NFL read-option rules 'flawed and a bit biased' - NFL - Rumors - FanNation (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/399810) With his "new" interpretation of the rules on hitting the "qb" the read option should be on the way out this year. So the Shannys will have to find a way to block a pass rusher. whistler 09-07-2013, 01:26 PM Griffin cannot be exposed in the RO option as he was last year due to the new "rules" he can now be demolished on each and every handoff when he is an "option". Get it! There is a difference between this year and last, last year he could simply show that he was not the runner after the handoff, now he can be hit as defensive insurance that he doesn't have the ball or so that he won't have the ball. Big deterrent to the RO. Defenses are now on an even plane, they don't have to fall for the fake the qb stays a 'live player" through-out the play inside the tackles. CRedskinsRule 09-07-2013, 02:45 PM Griffin cannot be exposed in the RO option as he was last year due to the new "rules" he can now be demolished on each and every handoff when he is an "option". Get it! There is a difference between this year and last, last year he could simply show that he was not the runner after the handoff, now he can be hit as defensive insurance that he doesn't have the ball or so that he won't have the ball. Big deterrent to the RO. Defenses are now on an even plane, they don't have to fall for the fake the qb stays a 'live player" through-out the play inside the tackles. They didn't write "new"rules. Basically they clarified that a qb in a RO play can be tackled like a runner(hits on lower legs) as opposed to being protected by qb rules. If Griffin declares himself out of the play he isn't getting hit without a penalty. The concern about the hits that harbaugh raised was looking for protection to the legs and head that a pocket qb has on a play action pass. Griffin demonstrated for most of last season that he understands how to protect himself on the RO. The concern, until Griffin proves otherwise, will be scrambling situations late in games that we are behind in and he feels internal pressure to make plays. SmootSmack 09-07-2013, 03:04 PM i thought RG did a great job knowing when to keep it or hand it off to morris. i trust RG to run the RO I wish more people realized that. MTK 09-07-2013, 03:59 PM They didn't write "new"rules. Basically they clarified that a qb in a RO play can be tackled like a runner(hits on lower legs) as opposed to being protected by qb rules. If Griffin declares himself out of the play he isn't getting hit without a penalty. The concern about the hits that harbaugh raised was looking for protection to the legs and head that a pocket qb has on a play action pass. Griffin demonstrated for most of last season that he understands how to protect himself on the RO. The concern, until Griffin proves otherwise, will be scrambling situations late in games that we are behind in and he feels internal pressure to make plays. Good clarification. There are no "new rules". Once he gives himself up by putting his hands up he's safe. MTK 09-07-2013, 04:08 PM NFL confirms: Read-option QBs can be hit like runners | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/05/nfl-confirms-read-option-qbs-can-be-hit-like-runners/) “The basic concept is, the quarterback position is not defenseless throughout the down. It’s the posture he presents that will dictate his protections,” Blandino said. Still, that doesn’t mean defenders get unlimited free shots on quarterbacks on all read-option plays. If it’s obvious that the quarterback doesn’t have the ball anymore, he can’t get hit: The rules say that if a defender drills a quarterback after he has handed off or pitched the ball and isn’t taking a running posture anymore, it’s unnecessary roughness. “If the quarterback is out of the pocket, he’s clearly out of the play, he cannot be unnecessarily contacted,” Blandino said. whistler 09-07-2013, 04:09 PM Good clarification. There are no "new rules". Once he gives himself up by putting his hands up he's safe. If you did as much research as you do defending the RO, you would note the quarterback once he is established as a runner or a running option on a play to a "defensive player he is to be treated as a runner until a run fake is carried outside of the tackle box" Also, I stated new "rule" I was incorrect, they are re-interpreting the rule. The fact that it allows the defender to hit the qb as a runner(at or below the waist), it spells DOOM for the RO. Giantone 09-07-2013, 04:11 PM Jim Harbaugh: NFL read-option rules 'flawed and a bit biased' - NFL - Rumors - FanNation (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/399810) With his "new" interpretation of the rules on hitting the "qb" the read option should be on the way out this year. So the Shannys will have to find a way to block a pass rusher. Sorry but I think old Jim here is little bit of a whiner , he's worried about his QB who out of all the RO/QBs there are out there I think he will have the hardest time , just a hunch . MTK 09-07-2013, 04:12 PM If you did as much research as you do defending the RO, you would note the quarterback once he is established as a runner or a running option on a play to a "defensive player he is to be treated as a runner until a run fake is carried outside of the tackle box" Also, I stated new "rule" I was incorrect, they are re-interpreting the rule. The fact that it allows the defender to hit the qb as a runner(at or below the waist), it spells DOOM for the RO. Um no, see above. If he clearly doesn't have the ball and is no longer carrying out a fake, the defense can't hit the QB. |
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