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warriorzpath 09-10-2013, 12:14 AM I think it's too early to judge anything from this first game. Cliché, but I think at least they tried to fight back and made it a one possession game. Pre-Griffin, the final score would've been 54 - 7. I don't think that's really exaggerating.
The Redskins need to regroup and look at the positives, because it's still one game out of 16. And there's a lot that they can learn from this game. Especially in the way they need to play the eagles the next time.
GTripp0012 09-10-2013, 12:16 AM Why would you do that? Both were productive in their respective roles in this game.Because since Week 1 of last season, one has been clearly more valuable than the other.
The Redskins like Morgan because he blocks like a tight end on the edge, which is nice when your gameplan is to run it down their throats. But sometimes, you have to throw the football as well. And having him on the field hurts you on those plays.
VTSkins1961 09-10-2013, 12:19 AM The next time we play the eagles it will be a lot different. RG3 was rusty.. that was to be expected. We will slow the game down with our offense to give our defense a chance to catch their breath. Under the circumstances,I'm glad the Redskins fought back. We will have more film on the Eagles as well and will be better prepared. That was the worst start of a Redskins game that I've seen in over 30yrs....but we fought back and made a game of it.
punch it in 09-10-2013, 12:20 AM To those who don't believe in preseason games to use to prepare for the regular season, this game is a perfect argument against that. Morris and Griffin both needed at least 2 quarters to get going. And made mistakes that in the first half and early part of the 2nd that doomed them for the rest of the game.
But after saying that, I knew there was no way that Griffin was ever going to play in the preseason, even in hindsight. If Griffin played in the preseason and got hurt in any kind of way, that would've been the end of Shanahan.
I was never a believer until tonite.....in the back of my mind for the last several weeks there was this little voice that kept saying "do you think Griff will be up to speed for game one?" - I kept telling him to shut the hell up, that he is a professional athlete and that preseason games are stupid - hes running on a treadmill, and doing 11 on 11 drills. I owe that little voice an apology.
drumkat44 09-10-2013, 12:22 AM I just think they knew Griff wasn't a threat to run. They were not respecting any of our play action at all.
Exactly!
artmonkforhallofamein07 09-10-2013, 01:02 AM Point was not that Oregon never ran the triple option, it was that (at least in the running game) everything they ran tonight was on tape already. Nothing was created in the last eight months.
He adopted some NFL passing plays, the Jackson TD was taken right out of Andy Reid's playbook. Kyle runs that play all the time too.
Kelly gives them a nice schematic advantage. But a schematic advantage should always lose out to a talent advantage in the long run. One game is not a long run...but I suddenly have no desire to see this matchup of coaches played twice every season.
Caching in the NFL comes from tendencies there is no way the Redskins had information on what Kelly would be able to do on defense and offense. These were newish schemes for the Eagles in particular. You didn't have those players running that offense on tape. Sorry but what we saw out the gate was new to us and the NFL. Compound that with awful field position for both the offense and defense of the Redskins for the entire first half and into the third quarter. Miscues are what lost the Redskins the game. Morris fumbles on our first play, Griffin comes out throwing picks, and looks terrible in the first half.
The offense didnt give the defense any chance to rest and gave them half the field to work with.
GTripp0012 09-10-2013, 02:17 AM Caching in the NFL comes from tendencies there is no way the Redskins had information on what Kelly would be able to do on defense and offense. These were newish schemes for the Eagles in particular. You didn't have those players running that offense on tape. Sorry but what we saw out the gate was new to us and the NFL. Compound that with awful field position for both the offense and defense of the Redskins for the entire first half and into the third quarter. Miscues are what lost the Redskins the game. Morris fumbles on our first play, Griffin comes out throwing picks, and looks terrible in the first half.
The offense didnt give the defense any chance to rest and gave them half the field to work with.I'm simply not interested in making the excuses you are. You can make them, but they're still excuses.
The Goat 09-10-2013, 02:45 AM Only time will tell if this game was a fluke, but a few things are just too constant to overlook.
Piss poor preparedness/discipline. On both sides of the ball. I think just about everybody recognizes this in one way or another. Whether you criticize RG (over shanny) for his injuries because he's not disciplined enough to get out of bounds or look at stupid penalties, it's just ugly part of the time. But my point is it falls on coaching/leadership at the end of the day.
Piss poor protection, which so far looks to have spread to run blocking. This oline is a joke about every other pass play, especially on the right side. As Kyle admitted we masked this last season with the constant threat of the read option. Again only time will tell if they can learn how to protect RG and keep him around longer than a couple years.
Piss poor adjustments. RG is rusty as hell, the oline is Swiss cheese and Helu is hot. So lets keep pressing downfield with lousy routes/formations everybody can cover. I made the comment earlier, shanny has only produced a serious team for half a season, out of three. Tonight looked like the old usual. Too little adjustment too late.
donofriose 09-10-2013, 05:19 AM So basically shanahan needs to go after one loss? Let us not overreact and act as if shanahan should be worried about his job. Yea, he still has to prove last year wasn't a fluke, but there are plenty of games left this year for him to prove himself to the league and the redskins fan again.
warriorzpath 09-10-2013, 06:28 AM Because since Week 1 of last season, one has been clearly more valuable than the other.
The Redskins like Morgan because he blocks like a tight end on the edge, which is nice when your gameplan is to run it down their throats. But sometimes, you have to throw the football as well. And having him on the field hurts you on those plays.
There's not anything that says you can't use the both of them. Morgan and Hankerson are both productive.
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