DRAFT Nightmare!!!!

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2BIG2BSKINNY
03-16-2005, 11:58 PM
TRADE DOWN!!! There is plenty we can get and use. We could still get a good player later in the round. I am no longer enticed by big name player, who come to Washington. Give me a hard nose player at a good reasonable pick while helping the Skins obtain more talent...wait I am sorry this cant happen in todays game. F*(^ it, go for the top pick and get treated to "hot garbage" picks of the past like Westbrooke, Desmond Howard and Rod "its the offenses fault I have butterfingers" gardner.
sorry I couldn't let an oppurtunity to rank on gardner go bye...
The past says to trade down!

offiss
03-17-2005, 12:39 AM
I would be very surprised if Tampa, or Arizona went with anything other than a RB, Gruden I believe is looking for another C.Garner, I believe Cadillac William's is exactly what he want's in a RB, Arizona will take whoever is left they may get the steal of the draft if Benson fall's to them at 8.

SKINZ_DOMIN8
03-17-2005, 05:22 AM
We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.

PSUSkinsFan21
03-17-2005, 08:01 AM
We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.


Confused by two things:
1. Who is the mediocre cornerback? Pac-Man Jones (who runs a 4.45 40 and has a 37"+ vertical, and is regarded by every scout as an outstanding shutdown corner) or Antrel Rolle (a 6', 200+lbs cornerback who is a great cover-man and a tremendous tackler)?
2. Taking the "best player available" does not always equate to a successful draft pick. If this mock draft is correct, and the top two WRs and CBs are taken when #9 rolls around, the Skins (who don't have a second round pick, yet again) would absolutely be best served trading down a few spots to acquire an additional pick(s). Why would they make a stretch on the 3rd best CB or WR when they could get them later in the draft? And why would they simply opt for the "best player available"? What if the best player available is a RB, or an OLB, or a Safety? That, to me, doesn't make sense. Just my opinion.

That Guy
03-17-2005, 08:01 AM
its deep at center and corner, you trade down for better value when you're pick would have you overpaying someone you don't really need to have or isn't worth the price... its nice that you're all-knowing and anyone who has a different opinion is a dipshit though - it really shows your intelligence.

backrow
03-17-2005, 01:26 PM
Mocks are only to be looked at in general! Do not think any one Mock has the concession on any other Mock. Use all of them, and realize, after we make our pick, we picked wisely! At the time of each draft, it always appears we get the best player available. Howard, Westbrook, Gardner all appeard to be solid during that particular draft. I'm not mocking the Mocks! I'm saying don't get all caught up in just one as a favorite, or another favorite! Realize that the guy we get will appear on most mocks somewhere near, or right dead on the spot we indeed draft at! It is all in opinions! Each of the 32 teams have their own opinion, just as we do. Just don't run you life by prospective mocks!

MTK
03-17-2005, 04:03 PM
We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.

:Smoker:

TheMalcolmConnection
03-17-2005, 04:41 PM
Very succinct Matty. lol

SKINZ_DOMIN8
03-17-2005, 05:55 PM
Confused by two things:
1. Who is the mediocre cornerback? Pac-Man Jones (who runs a 4.45 40 and has a 37"+ vertical, and is regarded by every scout as an outstanding shutdown corner) or Antrel Rolle (a 6', 200+lbs cornerback who is a great cover-man and a tremendous tackler)?
2. Taking the "best player available" does not always equate to a successful draft pick. If this mock draft is correct, and the top two WRs and CBs are taken when #9 rolls around, the Skins (who don't have a second round pick, yet again) would absolutely be best served trading down a few spots to acquire an additional pick(s). Why would they make a stretch on the 3rd best CB or WR when they could get them later in the draft? And why would they simply opt for the "best player available"? What if the best player available is a RB, or an OLB, or a Safety? That, to me, doesn't make sense. Just my opinion.

You DO NOT..........repeat..........DO NOT....draft a "mediocre" cornerback with the #9 overall. What about that do you not understand. Unless it is proven that he is a pure shutodwn corner, which he is not, do you even think about it.

kingerock
03-17-2005, 05:58 PM
I can list for you just as many 1st round busts as I can 1st round gems over the last 5-10 years, so if you have a knack for scouting talent (i.e. Cooley) then you may want to trade down to get a few "Real Redskins" rather than an over priced star that may never pan out.

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