Heath Miller-Trade up question

What's taking us so long to trade Gardner? Teams have to think he's worth at least a third rounder. :oink:
There hasn't been a need for him with other options available.. Now that Plax is off the market I expect he'll be traded to Cleveland or Seattle for a 3rd round pick in the next 2 weeks.

Guys....we don't need a pass catching TE. Plain and simple. We need a BLOCKING TE. While Miller is an adequate blocker as far as pass catching TEs go, he is not a quality blocking TE. In fact there have been rumblings that his blocking ahs been over rated anyways. We have FAR FAR FAR bigger needs than Heath Miller.

I strongly disagree with the "FAR FAR FAR bigger needs" part. I'm not sure you can point to our roster and find a major weakness.

I know you want a CB desperately, but stop for a second to think about who Walt Harris is:
- Drafted 13th overall by the Bears in 1996
- 7-year starter at CB with the Bears and Colts before blowing out his knee
- Led the Bears in interceptions in at least one season

I'm cool with drafting a CB at 9 because Harris and Springs are both older, but for the near term I don't consider CB a dire need.

At WR, I don't see a major problem unless you think Taylor Jacobs is a no-talent ass-clown. I like him, and I want to give him a chance to prove himself rather than drafting someone who will take his spot, relegating him to the bench, and never allow him to show what he can do.

At DE, we had Wynn, Daniels, Warner and Evans last year and were ranked 3rd in the league on D. This year we have the same guys. Show me where the problem is.

I feel like the Redskins have their bases pretty well covered right now, and whoever they end up drafting will serve to fill out depth.

And by the way, who the hell doesn't need a TE that can run-block, stretch the middle of a defense, and generally be another serious offensive threat?? Look at KC's offense with Tony G, SD's offense with Antonio Gates, and imagine what the Ravens would be without Todd Heap. Joe Gibbs could use a Heath Miller effectively; he's not a coach that isn't willing to adapt his system to his talent.

So you mean to tell me that we have no holes in our roster? :oink:

Gibbs said on WJFK that pure blocking TE's are a rarity in college these days. Does anyone know who would be the best blocking TE in the draft this year and what round he is projected to go in??

So you mean to tell me that we have no holes in our roster? :oink:

No. But show me where the hole is that would be considered a "FAR FAR FAR bigger need" than a playmaker like Heath Miller? I think a young CB to replace Springs & Harris is a need, but only because those guys are getting old, not because they're not good enough. If we draft Rolle or Pac Man, I'll bet you any amount of money that Harris starts and the rookie gets nickel, at least in 2005.

Besides, I tend to subscribe to the best-player-available draft theory rather than drafting for need. In today's NFL, your needs change so much year to year that I think you're best off filling needs through mid-priced free agents and then drafting your core talent at any position.

Go to our Offense-Prospects link from the home page. And look these guys up. They are in some type of value order. if you hover over the top right side of them for a second. You will get a synopsis of positives and negatives for each player. You may overvalue Heath Miller a bit. A recieving tight end isnt what Gibb's wants. He wants a blocking tight end. His H-back does all of the short yardage recieving for him. And in the red zone, Cooley proved very effective.

I really like Heath Miller, but he's not worth trading next year's first and a pick this year to move up in the late 1st early 2nd to get him. There is a chance we may need to use that 1st rounder next year for a qb. and he's also not a must have type of player at his position even though I think he could be a regular pro bowl player with his route skills and great hands.

I really don't see us trading up for a TE, don't see it at all.

You guys are homers for UVA. Heath Miller will never make a pro bowl. Trade anything to get him. Fuck that. If he slides to the 3rd, then consider it. Guys, again, again, again, Joe doesnt need a recieving tight end. He likes Cooley for short yardage packages, thats why he created the h-back. His tight ends block mostly. If he trades any pick to position ourselves to pick up that asshole, then Just paint me blue and silver and slap me!


Kellen Winslow was a much better te last year, and we picked up Taylor. Come on guys. I thought this site was for the intelligent, and informed fan.

Monksdown, I don't think anyone here is advocating the idea of trading up to get Miller. The question is what are the Redskins' needs? I personally don't see any major holes, so I think it makes sense to trade down. If they get Miller in that scenario I'd be happy. I'd also be happy with a guy like Marlon Jackson at CB or a guy like Clayton at WR, because we'd be drafting to fill out depth. My point was just that I don't see a need to get stuck into one positional need on draft day because we don't have major holes. And hey, Gibbs was looking hard at Winslow last year, so you know he at least entertained the idea of having a TE like that. I don't think Gibbs is one of those coaches that refuses to change his system. I think if he felt Miller would be a good addition, he would add him and find ways to use him.

All that said, I don't think Heath Miller is on the Redskins' radar. I think they're looking more at CB and WR. But I wouldn't mind if we got Miller.