Worst Mistake of the Shanahan Era

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htownskinfan
11-26-2013, 02:18 PM
I was not happy with the hiring of haslett and the switch to the 3-4,hiring a coach who coached a 4-3 defense but had "familiarity"with 3-4 from his days coaching in pittsburgh 97-99.

And to agree with Smootsmack,the way he handled Haynesworth I thought was handled very poorly,and now with davis.

The Mcnabb trade I was excited about,I thought he had something left in the tank.I'm still not sure whos fault that was that mcnabb didnt play well here.I dont think they played to Mcnabbs strengths but Mcnabb didnt do his part either,so I'll give Shan a pass on this one.

I guess there might have been a few people on here at the time that thought we were giving up too much to get RG3 but I was excited as hell about it as most of us were.I dont think that was a mistake .

To by far the biggest mistake was the way he handled Griff in the seattle game.I dont care if Griff wanted to stay in or not,you just gave up the farm to get him yet you put his whole career in danger by leaving him in there.A BLIND MAN COULD HAVE SEEN IT WAS TIME TO PULL GRIFFIN.
To me thats unforgivable,it ended our season horribly and it screwed up this season.
If griffin was healthy this yr,we probably arent leading the division,but we are def not 3-8 and a laughingstock
If griff doesnt tear up his knee were not talking about whether it was a mistake to give up so much for him

GTripp0012
11-26-2013, 02:19 PM
This is what I can't get with in terms of logic. Exactly who else was he supposed to get? Don't forget, his first year in the uncapped year, there was a lock down on Free Agents so he was limited, and year 2 was the lock out.

So who exactly should have have gotten?If you honestly think that he was that devoid of options, which isn't reality, he should have kept McNabb. Just releasing McNabb and making no other QB moves is not a solution. Matt Hasselbeck was available, just to name an unexciting veteran.

The 2011 draft was one of the better drafts for QBs. The 2010 draft was not, but there were non-first rounders who could have helped this teams situation, although that would have meant no roster spot for John Beck, so you can see the solution there.

SmootSmack
11-26-2013, 02:23 PM
To be honest, how much value did any of these guys have to begin with? Fred was a free agent this off-season and garnered really little to no interest. Should he have just played Fred even though Reed outplayed him, just so he could get his value up?

In regards to Haynesworthless, how much value could we really garner from him? Exactly what was he supposed to do with him? We heard what Cooley had to say about this clown. We saw him giving up on plays and laying down during the Philly MNF massacre.

Well specifically on Haynesworth there was an opportunity as late as draft day 2011 to get a 2nd round pick for him. Not straight up, but it would have involved a later round swapping of picks.

NC_Skins
11-26-2013, 02:23 PM
If you honestly think that he was that devoid of options, which isn't reality, he should have kept McNabb. Just releasing McNabb and making no other QB moves is not a solution. Matt Hasselbeck was available, just to name an unexciting veteran.

Ok, and tell me what he ended up signing for with the Titans and then tell me would you have signed him. Still you haven't given any options other than...."it was bad". Let's hear some options, and look at the salary ramifications on those people you would have signed. Come on GT, put some effort into it. :)

BaltimoreSkins
11-26-2013, 02:27 PM
It wasn't the cost for any other franchise in history. Just this one.

The problem is that you have to take risks. The teams that don't have a franchise QB are often mired in mediocrity in a revolving door of QBs and high to mid round first draft picks. The day of the trade I was anxious and apprehensive, what I saw last year gave me hope toward a bright future and I can't say for certainty our future is any worse or better for the trade but I am willing to take risks. For me the biggest mistake is the McNabb trade that essentially cost us a year of rebuilding.

skinsfaninok
11-26-2013, 02:28 PM
Well specifically on Haynesworth there was an opportunity as late as draft day 2011 to get a 2nd round pick for him. Not straight up, but it would have involved a later round swapping of picks.


should have

GTripp0012
11-26-2013, 02:32 PM
Ok, and tell me what he ended up signing for with the Titans and then tell me would you have signed him. Still you haven't given any options other than...."it was bad". Let's hear some options, and look at the salary ramifications on those people you would have signed. Come on GT, put some effort into it. :)$7 mil/yr. Would I have signed him? As opposed to what the Redskins did? Of course. However, iirc, he wasn't even on top of my FA rankings that year. Better options were available.

Here is the drafted QB class of 2011:

Draft Finder Query Results - Pro-Football-Reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2011&year_max=2011&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=&pos=QB&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all)

Newton would have cost a Griffin-like package to get, but after actually giving up those picks for Griffin, you can't even say he was unobtainable.

skinsfaninok
11-26-2013, 02:33 PM
Until MS goes I'm just going to be Bleh about this team even next yr if he's still here

Chico23231
11-26-2013, 02:34 PM
It wasn't the cost for any other franchise in history. Just this one.

Or anyone who wanted to move up. Lil shocked now the trade is an issue. I don't see acquire rg3 as the issue, but the handling of the injury, coaching and his protection is more the problem

GTripp0012
11-26-2013, 02:36 PM
The problem is that you have to take risks. The teams that don't have a franchise QB are often mired in mediocrity in a revolving door of QBs and high to mid round first draft picks. The day of the trade I was anxious and apprehensive, what I saw last year gave me hope toward a bright future and I can't say for certainty our future is any worse or better for the trade but I am willing to take risks. For me the biggest mistake is the McNabb trade that essentially cost us a year of rebuilding.No one is saying don't take risks. Just don't get to a point where trading more for a QB than anyone ever has is your only option. And if you do reach that point, it's time for someone else to have a shot.

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