Kirk cousins = dime a dozen

He was a 4th rd pick so .... . I don't think anyone after 3 starts can honestly be cast as , good , great or bust . I would guess if KC has a strong work ethic , great confidence he can develop into a very good qb . RG111 can be great as he was last year with the right team/coaches . OL , DL , DB and I think this could be moving in the right direction .

I hate that draft position even matters. The NFL's "best and brightest" continually prove they have no clue when it comes to grading and drafting QBs. Even guys like Brees and Rodgers weren't early first round picks.

That said, I don't care where Cousins was drafted. He has played at practically a historic level in his first few starts at a position that even the best struggle mightily at for years. If he was our first round pick, we'd all be optimistic about the future. So unless you believe he's only going to get worse with more experience, there's no reason to think he's just a dime a dozen. But who knows. Projecting QBs is one of life's great mysteries.

Oh.....HELL NO Bud! Three starts is more than enough......
Just ask Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning.....Kurt Warner.....

Don't forget about Brees. San Diego "saw his talent" and drafted Philip Rivers after his second year, because they Concluded he wasn't franchise QB material.

Here's where I stand on the young QB's:

1. I think they both have the ability to be starters in the NFL.
2. I'd like to keep both of them for at least one more season.
3. I see no reason to have an open competition. RGIII is #1.
4. Both young QB's need to work with outstanding QB teachers in the off-season.
5. The Redskins need to hire the best QB coach they can get for next season.

Agree with all points. Unless we get blown out of the water with an offer for Cousins I'd rather hang on to them both for another year too.

I have to believe that Redskins fans have to be the most "knee-jerk reacting" fans in the entire league. I mean, RGIII has one great year and it's time to enshrine him in the Hall of Fame. Has a bad second year (do to injury no doubt), and he's mentioned in the same category as a bust and people are wanting to trade him. Kirk Cousins comes out and plays decently - basically like how a normal second year fourth round draft pick back up quarterback would play - and he's a dime a dozen. OR, he's a superstar. One extreme or the other!

Come on guys!

Which would you rather have: A combination of RGIII/Cousins, or John Beck/Rex Grossman? I would take my chances with the former. And I would also make sure those two quarterbacks are on the same roster next year as well. Seriously, this is the best depth the 'skins has had at quarterback in a long, long time. There are more serious issues that need addressing - but quarterback is not one!

Special teams, alone, have lost the 'skins some games this year. Defense has lost games for this team as well. Offensive pass protection has been bad for most of the season - and it's gotten worse. The only time I feel it's necessary to complain about quarterback play is when the offensive line is as stout and solid - to the liken of the old hogs. When the defense is solid and stingy, and the special teams makes big plays for the 'skins and NOT for the other team. Then if the Redskins are still losing games, then we need to take a long hard look at the quarterback. Heck, even if all the 'skins are able to improve on is pass protection and special teams - that might be enough to give a good long look at quarterback, but as far as I'm concerned, this team needs to overall some very glaring issues first before we start crapping on RGIII or Kirk Cousins.

Fans in general can be pretty retarded. Last week after the Saints lost to the Panthers I heard callers on Monday morning on NFL radio saying Brees wasn't getting it done and that Sean Payton should be fired. :doh:

Don't forget about Brees. San Diego "saw his talent" and drafted Philip Rivers after his second year, because they Concluded he wasn't franchise QB material.Well, after Brees' third year. When he had lost his starting job for a few games to Doug Flutie. And later on the shoulder injury played a factor in SD's decision to let Brees go.

I have to believe that Redskins fans have to be the most "knee-jerk reacting" fans in the entire league.

Not as long as Philly has fans.

There was an Eagles fan in the front row at the game in in Philly last week who is the reigning king of "knee jerk" reactions. During one Eagles offensive series he cheered loudly on every down that the Eagles made positive yardage and booed loudly on every down that the Eagles made negative yardage. I've never known a Redskins fan who could do that.

Not as long as Philly has fans.

There was an Eagles fan in the front row at the game in in Philly last week who is the reigning king of "knee jerk" reactions. During one Eagles offensive series he cheered loudly on every down that the Eagles made positive yardage and booed loudly on every down that the Eagles made negative yardage. I've never known a Redskins fan who could do that.

Did you take away his meth?

I have to believe that Redskins fans have to be the most "knee-jerk reacting" fans in the entire league. I mean, RGIII has one great year and it's time to enshrine him in the Hall of Fame. Has a bad second year (do to injury no doubt), and he's mentioned in the same category as a bust and people are wanting to trade him. Kirk Cousins comes out and plays decently - basically like how a normal second year fourth round draft pick back up quarterback would play - and he's a dime a dozen. OR, he's a superstar. One extreme or the other!

Come on guys!

Which would you rather have: A combination of RGIII/Cousins, or John Beck/Rex Grossman? I would take my chances with the former. And I would also make sure those two quarterbacks are on the same roster next year as well. Seriously, this is the best depth the 'skins has had at quarterback in a long, long time. There are more serious issues that need addressing - but quarterback is not one!

Special teams, alone, have lost the 'skins some games this year. Defense has lost games for this team as well. Offensive pass protection has been bad for most of the season - and it's gotten worse. The only time I feel it's necessary to complain about quarterback play is when the offensive line is as stout and solid - to the liken of the old hogs. When the defense is solid and stingy, and the special teams makes big plays for the 'skins and NOT for the other team. Then if the Redskins are still losing games, then we need to take a long hard look at the quarterback. Heck, even if all the 'skins are able to improve on is pass protection and special teams - that might be enough to give a good long look at quarterback, but as far as I'm concerned, this team needs to overall some very glaring issues first before we start crapping on RGIII or Kirk Cousins.

He's the first Redskins QB to throw for over 300 yards in his first 2 starts and you call that NORMAL? First round projected starters BUST on a regular basis in the NFL, yet a 4th round pick puts up numbers like that and it's considered routine. Not saying KC is a future Hall of Famer or even that he won't amount to anything more than a career backup, BUT I don't see how anyone can say he's just been OK or performed as any 4th round backup would.

I'm with you on everything else. If the Special Teams and Defense weren't absolutely, bottom-of-the-league, abysmal, the Skins would have won 4-5 more games this year. They can improve in both areas in a single off-season. If they were even middle of the pack in both areas, the season would have been totally different. With a full salary cap and via the draft, they can do what they need to do to contend for the worst division in football... next year!

He's the first Redskins QB to throw for over 300 yards in his first 2 starts and you call that NORMAL? First round projected starters BUST on a regular basis in the NFL, yet a 4th round pick puts up numbers like that and it's considered routine. Not saying KC is a future Hall of Famer or even that he won't amount to anything more than a career backup, BUT I don't see how anyone can say he's just been OK or performed as any 4th round backup would.

I'm with you on everything else. If the Special Teams and Defense weren't absolutely, bottom-of-the-league, abysmal, the Skins would have won 4-5 more games this year. They can improve in both areas in a single off-season. If they were even middle of the pack in both areas, the season would have been totally different. With a full salary cap and via the draft, they can do what they need to do to contend for the worst division in football... next year!

Yeah he's thrown for some yards (against some bad defenses) but the turnovers are a concern.

Yeah he's thrown for some yards (against some bad defenses) but the turnovers are a concern.

As I have said before that is a result of inexperience and not inability imo.