guidance on flag football

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TheMalcolmConnection
03-28-2005, 08:41 PM
8-on-8 with offensive and defensive squads would be a great idea.

It keeps the number of teams down to a minimum and gives everyone a chance to play.

Hey Matty, did you ask any of the websites you contacted to email the Redskins to show THEIR interest too?

KLHJ2
03-28-2005, 08:47 PM
When I played intramural flag football in college we had a rule that said the QB could only run once every four downs, or maybe it was only if he was being blitz

I forget exactly but I remember that there was some rule that prevented the QB from just scrambling on every play

I have played flag football for every Post that I have been assigned to and even with those rules, the team with the mobile QB usually wins. It is no fun. In 7 on 7 all players are eligible receivers. Imagine running passing routes 20 or 30 plays in a row and the ball only gets thrown on about 10 to 12 of those plays. That is 7 on 7 flag football. Bye the way you might attempt 3 designed running plays in that 20-30 set. Everybody gets to run around, but not everyone gats a solid chance at the ball.

In 11 on 11 more people are on the field, bet there is less chaos. A maximum of 5 people are eligible for a pass instead of 6. Pluss you have blockers that can do more than just stand there with their arms behind their backs trying to shield defenders. Look I can go on and on about this.

Give me a waiver that states that I am fully responsible for my own actions, and I will sign it. Lets play real football.

Bye the way, I do not care if Brian Mitchell endorses flag football. I would love to play the real thing. I will play either way though.

joecrisp
03-28-2005, 09:03 PM
While there were a few scrambling QBs in my league, the most effective offenses were predicated on the short passing game.

Most defenses were able to deploy an effective QB containment strategy, while maintaining adequate coverage downfield. This mostly requires discipline on the part of the D-linemen/linebackers, maintaining the proper angles on the quarterback so that he can't esape outside or up the middle.

If you're playing 8-on-8, you'll usually have 3 blockers (center and two tackles), a quarterback and 4 receivers on offense. On defense, you'll want 2 linemen, a linebacker, 4 cornerbacks and a safety, or some variation, depending on what kind of offense you're facing. Generally, though, the linemen and linebacker(s) are able to keep the QB in check and force him to throw the ball.

As far as contact goes, there was plenty of contact in that 8-man league, especially if you were on the line. We were allowed to jam receivers within 5 yards of the LOS, also. It's not tackle, but it's pretty damn fun, regardless.

I don't think there's any way we'd be able to get a tackle game approved, or attract enough interested players to make it work. Most folks just don't want to risk the kind of injury that can occur in tackle football. Heck, I played flag last fall and broke my finger. I wasn't cleared for work for six weeks, which meant I had to take short-term disability pay. Let's just say getting 50% of your pay for six weeks is no vacation-- especially when you're not making much to begin with.

KLHJ2
03-28-2005, 09:29 PM
While there were a few scrambling QBs in my league, the most effective offenses were predicated on the short passing game.

Most defenses were able to deploy an effective QB containment strategy, while maintaining adequate coverage downfield. This mostly requires discipline on the part of the D-linemen/linebackers, maintaining the proper angles on the quarterback so that he can't esape outside or up the middle.

If you're playing 8-on-8, you'll usually have 3 blockers (center and two tackles), a quarterback and 4 receivers on offense. On defense, you'll want 2 linemen, a linebacker, 4 cornerbacks and a safety, or some variation, depending on what kind of offense you're facing. Generally, though, the linemen and linebacker(s) are able to keep the QB in check and force him to throw the ball.

As far as contact goes, there was plenty of contact in that 8-man league, especially if you were on the line. We were allowed to jam receivers within 5 yards of the LOS, also. It's not tackle, but it's pretty damn fun, regardless.

I don't think there's any way we'd be able to get a tackle game approved, or attract enough interested players to make it work. Most folks just don't want to risk the kind of injury that can occur in tackle football. Heck, I played flag last fall and broke my finger. I wasn't cleared for work for six weeks, which meant I had to take short-term disability pay. Let's just say getting 50% of your pay for six weeks is no vacation-- especially when you're not making much to begin with.

I never thought that I would be saying this to a civilian. I work on salary and get paid whether I am hurt, or not, able to show up to work, or not. The funny thing is that you make more money than I do.

You must have been playing with a bunch of guys that have not evolved the flag game as much as we have. When I said that the QB made up modt of the yards, I meant it. There is much more defense in the flag that I play. Players do not get open often, and the QB has no choice but to try and scramble, but because of the limitations of the O line in flag, he doesnt have anywhere to go. However, every once in a while he breaks free. Often games are decided by 1 or 2 scores and if a total of 25 points were scored. It was a high scoring game. 13-12

MTK
03-28-2005, 10:05 PM
I played in intramural flag football leagues in college and I don't remember the rule regarding the QB and scrambling, but it was never an issue. I'll ask one of my buddies to see if he remembers.

As far as playing tackle, if we want the Redskins involved it would probably never happen, just too much liability at stake.

Even though I'd love to play some old fashioned smash mouth ball, I can't risk getting seriously injured either. It's one thing when you're 20 something years old, it's a whole different story when you're 32 and have bills to pay.

joecrisp
03-28-2005, 10:06 PM
You must have been playing with a bunch of guys that have not evolved the flag game as much as we have. When I said that the QB made up modt of the yards, I meant it. There is much more defense in the flag that I play. Players do not get open often, and the QB has no choice but to try and scramble, but because of the limitations of the O line in flag, he doesnt have anywhere to go. However, every once in a while he breaks free. Often games are decided by 1 or 2 scores and if a total of 25 points were scored. It was a high scoring game. 13-12

Yeah, in the league I played in, coverage was tight, but there was usually at least one guy open enough that it was a better bet for the QB to pass it than to tuck it and run.

Don't get me wrong, though-- we had our share of Michael Vick wannabes, too-- but most defenses were able to keep those guys relatively in-check and force them to pass the ball.

Like I said, the best offenses in our league used a quick, efficient, West Coast-style offense to dink-and-dunk their way down the field. It doesn't mean the coverage sucked, it just means they ran a good offense.

MTK
03-28-2005, 10:07 PM
Depending on how much room we have on the fields maybe we should have a handful of Warpath teams (and Extremeskins teams, etc.) so this way more people get a chance to play

I was thinking the same thing, maybe an A team and a B team or something.

MTK
03-28-2005, 10:08 PM
One thing that I always thought was really key to flag football was having a quality QB.

Seems like whoever had the good QBs went really far, and a good O-line is nice of course.

Is there anyone here that is seriously a good QB??

Gmanc711
03-28-2005, 10:44 PM
Is there anyone here that is seriously a good QB??

Depends what you're lookin for. I'm very accurate and can throw some really nice balls, but I dont have really good arm strenth. Therefore I'll hang up alot of balls that are more than like 15-20 yards. I'm sure there is someone here that is better than I am, I wouldnt say I'm good, but I'm not bad if we have no other options.

MTK
03-29-2005, 08:15 AM
Depends what you're lookin for. I'm very accurate and can throw some really nice balls, but I dont have really good arm strenth. Therefore I'll hang up alot of balls that are more than like 15-20 yards. I'm sure there is someone here that is better than I am, I wouldnt say I'm good, but I'm not bad if we have no other options.

Do you wear a glove?

;)

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