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... To me, if Orakpo wants to be defiant about it, then punish him for it.

Then would Orakpo be justified in punishing the Redskins' FO for being "defiant?" As in, holding out?

Sure, I suppose it's mostly opinions right now, but there are facts involved as well. And if he does put up elite sack totals this season like those numbers indicate, I'd wager he'll be rewarded handsomely. At least I'd hope so.

Then would Orakpo be justified in punishing the Redskins' FO for being "defiant?" As in, holding out?

Sure, I suppose it's mostly opinions right now, but there are facts involved as well. And if he does put up elite sack totals this season like those numbers indicate, I'd wager he'll be rewarded.

Holding out hurts Orakpo the most with perception and risking what leverage he has left. It gives the opportunity for someone else to step up- namely Trent Murphy. All the leverage already belongs to the Redskins right now.

Hey, if he puts up big sack numbers it's a win for everyone and thus he'll have proven that he deserves a big contract.

... To me, if Orakpo wants to be defiant about it, then punish him for it.


That's when you start driving outside the lines. either you sign a player or you cut him. Else you create distractions and lose the team (i.e.Shanny).

Punish??? let the market punish him, you stick to business Bruce.

Holding out hurts Orakpo the most with perception and risking what leverage he has left. It gives the opportunity for someone else to step up- namely Trent Murphy. All the leverage already belongs to the Redskins right now.

Hey, if he puts big sack numbers it's a win for everyone and this he'll have proven that he deserves a big contract.

Right. Surely Orakpo knows better than to hold out. I was just sayin'...

So what kind of sack numbers does he have to put up to have your blessing on a hefty long term contract? 20? 15? 13?

Right. Surely Orakpo knows better than to hold out. I was just sayin'...

So what kind of sack numbers does he have to put up to have your blessing on a hefty long term contract? 20? 15? 13?

I say 20... No I'm just joking. I don't know?! I don't think there's a magic number ... Unless, they write up a contract that says there is.

If he's given similar rush opportunities per game as other premier pass rushers, no reason he can't be around a sack a game. If he does that, he will have earned his big $$ deal IMO.

That's when you start driving outside the lines. either you sign a player or you cut him. Else you create distractions and lose the team (i.e.Shanny).

Punish??? let the market punish him, you stick to business Bruce.

Look that's why there's a Trent Murphy on the team. To place the priority on the proper things like hard work, commitment, and on the field.

Look that's why there's a Trent Murphy on the team. To place the priority on the proper things like hard work, commitment, and on the field.

Trent (Murphy not silverspliff) might look good for those that like muscles but I'm on the fence with Murphy he needs to have speed. Offenses have big but slow tackles. He has no body fat but also no speed. Rak is a rare breed, big, strong, and fast.

Trent (Murphy not silverspliff) might look good for those that like muscles but I'm on the fence with Murphy he needs to have speed. Offenses have big but slow tackles. He has no body fat but also no speed. Rak is a rare breed, big, strong, and fast.

I think you have to somehow gain a little more football knowledge. I don't think I'm able to have a good discussion with you right now... I think I'll leave it at that.

Trent (Murphy not silverspliff) might look good for those that like muscles but I'm on the fence with Murphy he needs to have speed. Offenses have big but slow tackles. He has no body fat but also no speed. Rak is a rare breed, big, strong, and fast.

See my sig. It's not all about speed.

Edit: Even so, I wouldn't say Murphy's slow by any stretch of the imagination. His first step may not be the most explosive, but he is fairly quick out of his stance and, with his long legs, has sufficient top-end speed. He's also a smooth athlete. Not an athletic specimen like Rak, but again, certainly not slow or clumsy in any way.