(Merged) Jason Campbell

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offiss
04-24-2005, 01:15 AM
I think this was a smart pick for us. I dont think Ramsey is the answer for our team. He looked good two years ago, but I think Spurrier ruined him. He stands in the pocket with happy feet. He has no ability to step outside the pocket so he gets sacked all the time. And the bottom line is he doesnt make things happen. I will be the first to blame Gibbs for our horrible play calling last year. But Ramsey did nothign to impress me. He didnt look downfield, he didnt always make his throws. He isnt a leader of our team. Frankly, he looks scared when hes in the game in my opinion.


SC, anybody that we would have put back there would have looked scared, that's what happens when no one is open downfield and the opposing defense knows what your running.

We also know Gibbs doesn't think that way because if he did Ramsey wouldn't be the starter this season, Gibbs said this is a value pick not a need pick, which makes it even more ridiculous.

offiss
04-24-2005, 01:27 AM
Campbell gives us another weapon that we haven't had since Doug Williams. Campbell can move. He is a very mobile qb with an amazing arm. One reason he had to hold on to the ball is cause he had no recievers at Auburn and had to wait for them to get open. I have never been on the Ramsey bandwagon and will not be wether he takes to the playoffs or not. He is way to inconsistent with his play and will make more head scratching decisions then good ones. Our recieving core is still solid without Williams. We have Moss, Patten, Jacobs who showed tremendous upside last year, Thrash. Thats pretty solid to me. I feel Campbell brings a huge upgrade to the position. Just hope everyone that did not want Campbell here doesn't welcome him in. He will be a great qb for us.


What on earth are you talking about S4L? Williams wasen't remotly a mobile QB when we had him, in fact he replaced the best athlete we had at QB in 40 years in Jay Schroeder, Schroeder ran like a deer, and had an arm that would rival Elway. Campbell is not great athletically, he has decent mobility and a good arm not great.

I am glad you think he will be a great QB for us, cause he wasen't a great QB for Auburn, but once the game speeds up and all the players are twice as good as what he's seen in college, and the seperation for recievers is cut in half, that should really bring out the greatness in him. I guess when he consistantly hold's the ball to long in college and throws the ball up for grab's far to much that will all vanish once he has elite competition in front of him?
This pick was plain and simple an absolute JOKE!

EternalEnigma21
04-24-2005, 01:28 AM
I can't vote yes or no. I can easily justify the pick to myself and support my team's decision, but I don't have all the facts. Its almost like discussing the Iraqi War. Everyone has all the opinions, but no one has all the facts.

I'm comfortable with bringing him in, I just dont know if our first rounder next year will be worth it, but who knows, maybe this kid is the next McNabb. boy that'd be nice

redwagonskins
04-24-2005, 02:42 AM
I wish we could archive all the negative / postive comments on Campbell to bring up again in a couple of years. When he's the starting QB who gets us back into the playoffs using his abilities on Gibbs' beloved bootlegs, we could dig up all the "Gibbs is an idiot" and "so and so is smoking crack comments". If he is the next Brunell failure, we could dig up the "he'll be ok" or "we need a decent backup to Ramsey" comments. BTW, I'm guessing he's going to turn out to be just fine. Log it!

NM Redskin
04-24-2005, 02:56 AM
To me it makes sense. If Ramsey doesn't produce, then draft a QB next year? Gibbs doesn't have that long. Might as well have a backup plan because clearly Brunell and Hasse are not the answer.

offiss
04-24-2005, 03:05 AM
Mark it down NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedskinPete
04-24-2005, 04:00 AM
Well I really don't know what to make of it. I hope it works out but what the Skins have done over the years in the draft have been very poor. Even when they get it right they push the guy out of town or he is a bad guy not a true Redskin! The truth of it all is that those days may never be back!!!! Players like Arrington or Taylor are hired guns not true Redskins. I would have traded both for players in this draft that wanted to be here if I was running things. With no let down and even better!!!!! I know you all think these two walk on water but they don't like it here, they don't make the money they wanted[that gun at thier head when they signed should be reported!] or what ever the reason. I don't have time for guys like this....piss off and get someone who wants to be here!

jrocx69
04-24-2005, 06:27 AM
taylor doesnt have a choice, he will play and become a pro bowler this year
arrington will stay hurt and sneak around making his millions and eventually come back
campbell will play very little this season (when ramsey agervates something) and will take over ramsey next year if we fail under PR

jdlea
04-24-2005, 08:15 AM
I don't care how good Campbell ends up being, I'm still against the pick. I don't think the pick sabotaged the Redskins...just Patrick Ramsey.

Gmanc711
04-24-2005, 08:39 AM
To me it makes sense. If Ramsey doesn't produce, then draft a QB next year? Gibbs doesn't have that long. Might as well have a backup plan because clearly Brunell and Hasse are not the answer.

If Gibbs is concerned with the "future of the Redskins"; I think they should have waited until next year. Jason Campbell is a huge question mark; I think hes good, but nothing to get real excited about. There are three guys definitley/probably coming out next year that I think you get really excited about (Leinhart,Leak,Young).

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