Chico23231
11-24-2014, 09:44 PM
Sorry but that is one stat list that depending on circumstance can be 100% meaningless or misleading. Look at the top of that list most of those guys are
known as running QBs or highly mobile they are known for holding the ball longer than average believing they can extend plays, those same guys get sacked at a high rate. Look at who is at the bottom, human statue Peyton Manning who drops back to point X and either throws to the open man, throws a receiver open, or the ball away quickly as he knows his immobility gives him limited time. That list pretty much reflects the tendency of those on it not how good or bad the teams pass blocking is. Would you look at that list and say Denver's O-line should get an F grade in pass blocking? I would think not, it of course is the result of a stationary quick thinking quarterback.
Good post, agree
mlmdub130
11-24-2014, 10:25 PM
Sorry but that is one stat list that depending on circumstance can be 100% meaningless or misleading. Look at the top of that list most of those guys are
known as running QBs or highly mobile they are known for holding the ball longer than average believing they can extend plays, those same guys get sacked at a high rate. Look at who is at the bottom, human statue Peyton Manning who drops back to point X and either throws to the open man, throws a receiver open, or the ball away quickly as he knows his immobility gives him limited time. That list pretty much reflects the tendency of those on it not how good or bad the teams pass blocking is. Would you look at that list and say Denver's O-line should get an F grade in pass blocking? I would think not, it of course is the result of a stationary quick thinking quarterback.
Kirk is also on that list at 33 with the same Oline. I'm with the same thinking as you, that list shows how fast the QB decides on the play, more so than how much time the line is supplying the QB.
And with that line of thinking Kirk is in the top of the list as far as assessing the play and making a quick decision. Really kind of makes me wonder what he still may be able to do in this offense. If Robert shows no progress for the next 2-3 games I say go back to Kirk. I'd rather him out there than Colt. If they can help him with the turnovers he could be a very serviceable QB for a few years.
punch it in
11-24-2014, 10:57 PM
Kirk is also on that list at 33 with the same Oline. I'm with the same thinking as you, that list shows how fast the QB decides on the play, more so than how much time the line is supplying the QB.
And with that line of thinking Kirk is in the top of the list as far as assessing the play and making a quick decision. Really kind of makes me wonder what he still may be able to do in this offense. If Robert shows no progress for the next 2-3 games I say go back to Kirk. I'd rather him out there than Colt. If they can help him with the turnovers he could be a very serviceable QB for a few years.
I think the int's and throws that should have been int's probably have something to do with that. After all both he and Griff have far less of a sample size to draw these numbers from.
Colt Mccoy is 2-0 and to me has been by far the most effective qb. None of them are probably the long term answer but we should have stuck with the winning hand after the Dallas game. This season might not be over.
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Gary84Clark
11-24-2014, 11:05 PM
Go ahead and put Kirk back in. He throws picks before he is hit.
JoeRedskin
11-24-2014, 11:31 PM
Who is calling for Kirk? Anyone?
I am just pointing out that the same criteria you used for Cousins to judge his success: Wins.
sdskinsfan2001
11-25-2014, 12:03 AM
Give RG3 one more year, use every means possible to get 2 better starting guards and Right Tackle (high draft picks/free agents), draft/sign a couple secondary players, and lets see how it pans out.
RG3 has so much talent, just seems crazy they he can't improve, even though it kinda looks that way right now.
We're not winning the super bowl next year anyways, have a few holes that need to be filled.
There are a lot of bad teams in the NFL this year, we would probably have to trade up again to get Marriota/Winston.
Would any other qb be anywhere near worth picking in the top 10?
calia
11-25-2014, 02:11 AM
Of course not. I just tried to make a joke about being a Redskins fan. If you're going to get kicked in the balls each week then you might as well learn to like it. Bad attempt on my part.
I was kidding too and I figured no one on this site would wish this on anyone other than a Cowboys fan.
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mlmdub130
11-25-2014, 07:09 AM
Go ahead and put Kirk back in. He throws picks before he is hit.
He also throws for 300 yards and around 21 points. I'm not calling for him to come in and save anything, but IF RG is pulled in the next few games I would much rather see Cousins out there not McCoy. And that's based solely on the unknown of Cousins ability to learn from his mistakes. Maybe this benching opened his eyes to something. And yes I'm clearly grasping here, not much else to do these day.
irish
11-25-2014, 07:41 AM
He also throws for 300 yards and around 21 points. I'm not calling for him to come in and save anything, but IF RG is pulled in the next few games I would much rather see Cousins out there not McCoy. And that's based solely on the unknown of Cousins ability to learn from his mistakes. Maybe this benching opened his eyes to something. And yes I'm clearly grasping here, not much else to do these day.
Interesting stats. What I find interesting is that KC throws for those yards with the same O-Line that RG cant get get the ball out with. I know its not all one or the other but somehow KC got the ball out while RG cant.
mredskins
11-25-2014, 08:28 AM
Got play RGIII out this year. We have to due our complete due diligence on him. Then in the off season decide what to do at QB.
KC and Colt are not the long term and at this point probably not RGIII either but he does have the talent to turn it around.