Gibbs: "We had a really good draft!"

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SmootSmack
04-25-2005, 12:19 PM
Exactly.

I think there's this misconception that Beathard was 100% in charge of personnel, that's just not true. Gibbs has always had a say in personnel decisions.

Just add to that, I don't think Beathard had anything to do with developing the QBs after they were drafted. That was all Gibbs and the coaching staff. So if we trusted Gibbs to develop a guy like Mark Rypien to give us at least one season of glory then why not Campbell

but don't get me wrong, I get the argument that for what we gave up Campbell better give us more than one great season

MTK
04-25-2005, 01:56 PM
Just add to that, I don't think Beathard had anything to do with developing the QBs after they were drafted. That was all Gibbs and the coaching staff. So if we trusted Gibbs to develop a guy like Mark Rypien to give us at least one season of glory then why not Campbell

but don't get me wrong, I get the argument that for what we gave up Campbell better give us more than one great season

Good point, I don't think it was Beathard that was coaching the QBs :)

offiss
04-25-2005, 02:08 PM
Just like you were saying Matty, the Griffin and Springs signings were questionable, and even though I wasn't on the board at the time, my current circle of friends was like "WTF, I can't believe we are signing MORE has-beens." Gibbs helped make those signings happen and it seems as though the vast majority of them have panned out. No one could predict Barrow's knee would do what it did.

I too, questioned the QB move, but it has been brought up in many posts how Gibbs is building the franchise and not just trying to "win now". I definitely agree before we have complete flipouts (offiss, you are freaking out dude:)), we trust in judgement even if it IS questionable. I too, would have liked Williams, but it seems there is a rhyme and a reason to it all when all the highly intelligent minds here have posted good arguments for it.


I Know! :)

But theres a reason, I am ususally, USUALLY, right on the money with my talent evaluation.

Now here's something you should know, Ramsey is a borderline genious, Brunell is a long time vet and pro bowler, and neither could run Gibbs offense. Now that is going to mean 1 of 2 things, either Gibbs offense was horrible regardless of who was behind center, or Brunell and Ramsey are just to dumb to grasp it, and may need another year of work to understand and execute it.

With that being said how long do you think it will take the wonderlik wonder to learn this system from the bench? Remember this is the day of salary cap and you can't keep a #1 on the bench for 3 to 4 years, and as I said in another post before we drafted him, he will be a long term waste of time and money, I hope everyone now understands that Brunell is our primary backup, PERIOD! There is no way this kid is getting on the field [legitamitly] for at least 2 years, at least!

Sorry if I am flipping out, but I get worked up when a team I have rooted for my whole life does something this stupid that I know will hold us back. Just like last year when I said no Brunell, he's the last QB I want in Gibbs pocket passing offense, and flipped when we gave up a pick and 43 mil, guess who was right? OFFISS, not Gibbs!

Has anyone heard 1 annalist, just 1, say what a great pick this was? Or we recieved great or even decent value for what we gave up? ANYONE?

Redskins_P
04-25-2005, 02:19 PM
I Know! :)

But theres a reason, I am ususally, USUALLY, right on the money with my talent evaluation.


Mel Kiper Jr, is that you?

Paintrain
04-25-2005, 02:22 PM
Has anyone heard 1 annalist, just 1, say what a great pick this was? Or we recieved great or even decent value for what we gave up? ANYONE?


I think, when history judges this draft, one of the best five players in it will be Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell, who went to Washington at No. 24. That isn't to say Washington did a smart thing, paying a ransom for the pick -- particularly when it already has another quarterback there who's good enough to win with and considering Joe Gibbs will be at some racetrack by the time Campbell is an experienced starter. I'm just commenting on the quality of the player. He's good.

Kind of a backhanded compliment, but you asked..

TheMalcolmConnection
04-25-2005, 02:23 PM
Actually I have heard a few analysts saying this was a great move. Not that I agree with it, but I'm OK with it.

Also, I am trusting the Skins to win the Super Bowl so the #1 pick for the Broncos next year won't mean shit. :)

SmootSmack
04-25-2005, 02:24 PM
Gil Brandt likes Campbell:

http://www.whnt19.com/Global/story.asp?S=3221092

As does Terry Bradshaw

CZAR'S FRONT OFFICE TAKE (from Foxsports.com): Campbell was Terry Bradshaw's favorite QB in the draft, loving the kid's big-play arm and toughness.

TheMalcolmConnection
04-25-2005, 02:29 PM
The more I see reviews of Campbell. The more I think of them as "The Ramsey who can run."

"kid's big-play arm and toughness"

Daseal
04-25-2005, 06:25 PM
Campbell is a great player, I think he's good. However, when you invest in a young talented QB, it's not a need. I remember how everyone told me how good a QB controversey would be for the team last year. Let's just learn our lesson and let Ramsey try to play without someone riding his ass.

skinsguy
04-25-2005, 06:46 PM
Like Gibbs said, if a quarterback lets stuff like this [drafting another QB] bother them, then they should not be your quarterback in the first place. So, if Ramsey is our guy, then the Campbell thing should have no effect on him.

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