ArringtonRules
04-25-2005, 11:42 AM
Well I for one am very upset with Campbell selection. I am very surprised that a lot of people on this site don't think so. For some years I have seen my beloved 'skins give away draft picks like they were a plague. Now the last time I checked on all the teams that did well or went to playoffs they all have had a lot of draft picks.
I AM VERY ANGRY WITH THIS PICK!! Giving away 3 picks for a QB a lot of people said would be drafted 2nd round or lower. He was not even rated high coming out of college. And why pray do we need to draft a QB when we have Ramsey. Looks like Gibbs had not learnt his lesson from the Mark Brunell trade fiasco. Now we have given up i think 4 picks for 2 QBs who will not see any significant playing time.
STOP SMOKING THT WEED REDSKINS FO!!
I'll say this, nothing COMPLETELY upset me this draft.
TheMalcolmConnection
04-25-2005, 11:44 AM
I have a problem with how much we gave up for this pick, BUT say Ramsey goes down, you want Brunell in there as backup?
celts32
04-25-2005, 11:46 AM
I went "C"
I give an "A" for Rogers since it filled a need and he was a good value at the spot. I preferred Mike Williams at this pick but I won't fault them for passing on him to fill another big need.
As for Campbell, I give this pick an "F". A 6-10 team with Santana Moss & David Patten as it's starting WR's does not have the luxery of taking a QB for 3 years down the road. The better pick would have been WR Roddie White or one of the D-lineman left.
An A & F average into a C as a final grade...
I'm going with an optimistic B.
I really, really like Carlos Rogers. I think he will prove to be a better fit here than Smoot because of his hitting abilities. With Springs and Rogers we'll have two physical corners who can come on blitzes and disrupt things in the backfield.
I'm also liking the FB selections, both guys sound versatile and White sounds like he could see time at RB and H-back as well. Both should help improve our short-yardage and goal line schemes. We finally have that 250 pound hammer that can fill the Gerald Riggs role down in the redzone.
The LB selections look nice as well, although they are raw and will need time to develop, they seem like heady guys who will fit right into Williams' system.
As for the controversial Campbell pick, the more I think about it the more at peace I am with it. Brunell is most likely out of here next year, and we all know Gibbs loves to have two capable QBs on the roster. Sorry but Hasselbeck is not a guy I'd feel confident in leading a playoff push, and obviously Gibbs isn't either.
ChounsMan
04-25-2005, 11:50 AM
Sorry Patrick, but Gibbs never wanted you as his starter. Brunell was supposed to drop you down to #2, & now Campbell will in '06.
The rest of the draft looks good to me :food-smil
ArringtonRules
04-25-2005, 11:51 AM
Well Campbell is going to be no better than Brunell right now. I just don't understand why u would pay such a huge price to get a rookie backup QB if that is what u anticipate Campbell to be doing. In my mind this was a bad move on what otherwise was a good draft.
Gibbs should have gone for a WR or DE not a QB.
I have a problem with how much we gave up for this pick, BUT say Ramsey goes down, you want Brunell in there as backup?
celts32
04-25-2005, 12:00 PM
I went "C"
I give an "A" for Rogers since it filled a need and he was a good value at the spot. I preferred Mike Williams at this pick but I won't fault them for passing on him to fill another big need.
As for Campbell, I give this pick an "F". A 6-10 team with Santana Moss & David Patten as it's starting WR's does not have the luxery of taking a QB for 3 years down the road. The better pick would have been WR Roddie White or one of the D-lineman left.
An A & F average into a C as a final grade...
Jus to add to my previous grades, I did like the McCune pick allot. He looks like a beast and it's a position of need. I would rasie my grade to a C+ if it were an option but not up to a B.
That Guy
04-25-2005, 12:46 PM
C, we had a really good day two (imo)
TheMalcolmConnection
04-25-2005, 01:21 PM
Well Campbell is going to be no better than Brunell right now. I just don't understand why u would pay such a huge price to get a rookie backup QB if that is what u anticipate Campbell to be doing. In my mind this was a bad move on what otherwise was a good draft.
Gibbs should have gone for a WR or DE not a QB.
Campbell is better than Brunell is ONE very important category:
Age.
OK, Ramsey goes down, we start Brunell and don't have Campbell. He either stinks the place up as I'd expect he would do, OR he retires in a year or two anyway.
I also agree with whoever said they wouldn't want Hasselbeck leading a playoff push.
ChounsMan
04-25-2005, 02:14 PM
I went "C"
As for Campbell, I give this pick an "F". A 6-10 team with Santana Moss & David Patten as it's starting WR's does not have the luxery of taking a QB for 3 years down the road. The better pick would have been WR Roddie White or one of the D-lineman left.
An A & F average into a C as a final grade...
I'm hearing that Campbell will be groomed to start in '06, as they(front office) hope Ramsey will be motivated to play hard this season as better trade bait, so they can move him easier.
Like it or not the talent scouts for Washington saw something in Campbell that lit the bulb over their heads & they just could not let him pass.