2015 Coaching Carousel

Kyle to be Atlanta oc

Kyle to be Atlanta oc

Taking him as far as way as possible from the Browns/Johnny Douchebag sinking ship.

I love how everyone still kills MS here. Like he was the only problem over in Ashburn. I think we can now see Allen, Snyder and Griffin were all MAJOR parts of the problem too. MS got tired of the sense of entitlement Griffin had and leaked it to the media. Gruden comes in, sees what's going on and says F it, and called Griffin out on it right to the media. Doesn't care who he pisses off. That was a big F u to Snyder. The trade has blown up in their faces cause Griffin stinks, we're short on talent partly because of the trade, and Bruce Allen's terrible FA selections. Now that we're at a all time low, SM has to come in and clean up this mess. It took Snyder 16 YEARS to hire a competent personnel man. MS wasn't the problem here. Snyder and Allen were.

This. Mike and Kyle Shannahan was just two small fried shrimps out of a big platter of monkey crap we had to eat.

This. Mike and Kyle Shannahan was just two small fried shrimps out of a big platter of monkey crap we had to eat.

Mike Shanahan was given control of this team, and he f*cked things up royally. If he was so blameless, he'd have an HC position right now. He's just another one of Snyder's terrible hires, period.

Mike Shanahan was given control of this team, and he f*cked things up royally. If he was so blameless, he'd have an HC position right now. He's just another one of Snyder's terrible hires, period.

No one ever said he was blameless. He made his share of mistakes too. I think where Snyder messed up was giving him total control. Should have had a strong GM picking the players and let Mike coach the team.

No one ever said he was blameless. He made his share of mistakes too. I think where Snyder messed up was giving him total control. Should have had a strong GM picking the players and let Mike coach the team.

Except that Mikey wouldn't have agreed to that. He wanted total control or he wasn't going to sign the contract.

... and "not blameless" is a pretty big understatement as to his share of poop on the monkey crap platter.

If he's some kid in his 20's - 30's, I get the dumping toxic waste. Guy's my age and, if he's can't be the bigger man at this stage in his life and just walk away, then he is one small, petty immature guy to being tossing a grenade in the door as he is walking out.

Except that Mikey wouldn't have agreed to that. He wanted total control or he wasn't going to sign the contract.




I agree with you ,he wouldn't have come if he didn't get it and Dan Snyder needed him here to show others he was a great owner and could work with the best and the rumors weren't true .It all worked until RGIII , Robert was Dan's pick Shannahan wanted Peyton and didn't believe in Griffen i.e drafting Kurt Cousins ,then it all fell to crap .

Look, since Shanny left, we haven't had QB controversy, leaks to the media, anybody bad-mouthing any of our coaches or vice versa, or a really bad losing season.

So obviously Shanny was a major problem here, and good riddance!

Raiders making some solid moves on offense, Mike Tice OL coach and Bill Musgrave as OC.

On the other hand to be fair to Mike, he was pretty much the front man for team Shanahan. I think the whole sh** show that was 2013 had a lot to do with Mike's choice of coaches (including his OC), his entourage (hi Adam Shefter), and personnel folks not named BA.

Shanahan may not have been the initiator of leaks, complaints, etc., but he didn't try to say "Oh, not me, that must have been Kyle (or some other coach)." Stuff was coming out that was clearly from the Shanahan camp and, by denying it all without pointing someone else, Shanahan did, at least, not attempt to throw any of his people under the bus and took all the backlash.