What If?

I hope we never get to see Brunell "come out". I'd love to see Campbell straight up, beat him up for the #2 position.


If that were to happen, Brunell would be the highest paid #3 QB in the history of the NFL.

Ramsey didn't impress me one bit in last year's preseason - nor - did Mark Brunell. Neither guy looked like someone who could lead a team to the playoffs. I think Ramsey does have the ability, but he's going to have to prove it this season. Who knows, Brunell may come out and look like the Brunell of old....I'm not holding my breath, but now that would be very interesting.If I remember correctly Hasselback looked better than both in the little action he got in preseason.

If that were to happen, Brunell would be the highest paid #3 QB in the history of the NFL.

Very true, but I'd rather have a high-paid old #3 sitting the bench rather than a possible QB of the future not getting any reps in real games.

dont forget that Ramsey was coming off foot surgery just before preseason last year. He could barely walk like a month prior.

I don't think that really had anything to do with how he did. He doesn't have too much mobility so I wouldn't say that was affected.

I really think it was a combination of a LOT of things that was a problem for Ramsey:

- new coach
- new offensive philosophy
- Brunell coming in
- Brunell taking his job
- Jansen going down
- being inserted halfway into the season
- having a hurt/bad receiving corps

I would say the list can go on and on. Most of the things on the list that I would consider to be the biggest problems are not alleviated and I think that will make Ramsey a better all-around QB. Big positives are:

- great QB coach
- a year in the new system
- the job "officially" his this year

We can't have a situation like Sandiego next year though. We don't have the cap space to franchise Patrick. Hell we couldn't franchise one of our 2 definsive core redskins this year...

I agree, Ramsey didn't do much to convince the staff last preseason that he should be the starter. Neither did Brunell, difference was Brunell was a proven vet and for Gibbs that meant alot.

Now coming into camp this year, Ramsey has proven that he can operate Gibbs' offense and he's begun to be a guy the staff believes can lead the team.

Exactly! What did Brunell do in the pre-season to establish himself over Ramsey? I will tell you, 1 long TD pass to McCant's, did McCants establish himself in the pre-season? Yes, did he play? No, The fact that Brunell played as bad as he did in the pre-season being the veteran that he is should have raised a red flag in Gibbs mind. On the other hand Ramsey was a young QB trying to learn a new offence which Joey T. said would take at least 6 to 10 games to really understand, I guess the same went for Brunell.

I agree with Matty that Gibbs comfort level was with a veteran, but as we saw it may take a veteran just as long to learn Gibbs offense as a youngster. As it turns out Brunell was a horrible signing, Gibbs should have shown a little more confidence in Ramsey from day 1 we would be much farther along as a team if he did, We would have a much better gauge of Ramsey as a QB in his system, and would have a better idea of where we stand as a team, it also may have prevented us from throwing away next years draft on Campbell.

Basically the same old, either your for Ramsey or against him. I just think Ramsey will be a tremendous QB for us givin the chance, but I know there are plenty here that will disagree, nothing wrong with that, once the season starts we then find out who had it right, difference of opinion makes this a lot of fun!

The good thing is, I don't think anyone is really "against" Ramsey (besides SKINZ_DOMIN8 :Smoker:) Some people might not think he is the QB of the future, but I think that (most) everyone here is happy with how he played down the stretch and know he at least has the physical gifts to possibly BE the QB we know he can be.

Ramsey will wreck things this year...we will be SD all over again.
Unless Ramsey smokes too much crack with Ade jimoh in the offseason.

My point is that we are in somewhat of a lose/lose position in that even if Ramsey does really well this year I dont see him staying because of what has happened in the past. Now that might not mean anything if Campbell turns out well. HOWEVER swicthing QBs every two to three years is how we got to the point where we haven't had a winning record since '99.(Yes I know this is but one of many reasons)