Not drafting a QB a mistake?

Scot M drafted exactly 1 qb in 4 years with Seattle. His 3rd year. Russell Wilson

Scot M drafted exactly 2 qb's in 5 years at SF. His 1st year, a #1 pick, which some might argue has to be a qb nowadays. Alex Smith. and his last year ( a 5th rounder with no stats next to his name)

A mistake or not (I say not), Scot M clearly doesn't play the revolving qb game through the draft. We have a qb taken #2 overall, and a qb that was a 4th round pick. In 9 drafts before this Scot M took 3 qb's, I think it's safe to say that he doesn't value yearly picks on QB's.

81 total selections by SM at SF and Sea, 3 qb's (4% of draft picks ).

In those 81 selections, you know what he took a lot of? DE/DT/OL 29 out of 81 picks(35%).

We could be so lucky to have that type of focus on the line.

In the same 9 years the Redskins took twice as many qb's, 6, in 14 less picks (67 total, 9%), and nearly half as many DE/DT/OL 15 (22%).

I also take exception with QB being a need as a blind statement of fact. When our line caves in half the time, the qb's (as has been discussed to the nth degree) tended to fall back on their bad tendencies (Griffin holding and running, KC throwing quick INT's). Let's let these guys have quality line play (and blocking TE/RBs) for 1 season then we can go into the qb pool if we have too.

Someone should start another thread called, "Drafting too may Qb's a mistake?" Kidding....don't get upset 30Gut.

CRedskinsRule, I like your post about questioning QB need when the rest of the team sucks.
As has been discussed on this thread about how to rate a draft pick as mistake or not, it seems to me there is a gray area and brings to mind Doug Williams. Drafted high in the draft by a perennial loser of a franchise and ends up leaving that team. He could and should be considered by Tampa a mistake for Tampa. Years later he goes to Washington and wins a Superbowl. Not a mistake. So what is he?

In fairness and with no disrespect intended I don't see how your speculation on what happened with the draft and draft board relates to this discussion. Neither of us know the process. We can only judge the result. The result is they didn't draft a QB.

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I think the draft board and how the prospects were ranked have everything to do with this discussion. If there had been a QB Scot and Jay liked in a pick range that suited his talent/potential, I do not think they would've passed(especially from the mid-rounds down). If that's the case, and there were no QBs they thought were worth it, then no, it wasn't a mistake. Drafting a QB out of his value range or when there were better players available, now that would have been a mistake.

you make the point (not yours, but everyone else's) well.......
I am willing to wager anything that when they traded down, they accepted the fact that a qb wouldn't be in the cards.In the name of speculation its just as possible they thought the QBs would be available at their next pick.....and were wrong. I think we are all aware that happens all the time in the draft because its a gamble. For all we know they could have wanted one of the QBs and miscalculated.

I think the draft board and how the prospects were ranked have everything to do with this discussion. If there had been a QB Scot and Jay liked in a pick range that suited his talent/potential, I do not think they would've passed(especially from the mid-rounds down). If that's the case, and there were no QBs they thought were worth it, then no, it wasn't a mistake. Drafting a QB out of his value range or when there were better players available, now that would have been a mistake.Well none of us knows the draft board. So to me speculating about the draft board is fine but its just rationalizing based on our respective view points.

Your argument sounds a lot like the front office made the decision and therefore its not a mistake, and that reason is just as good as as any other I guess.

In the name of speculation its just as possible they thought the QBs would be available at their next pick.....and were wrong. I think we are all aware that happens all the time in the draft because its a gamble. For all we know they could have wanted one of the QBs and miscalculated.

Really stretching the point there. If you want to take a qb, you don't drop to the bottom of a round from the top. Between that, SM's drafting history, and the lack of agreement in general on this board, I think you are just barking up the wrong tree.

What could anyone say that would make you change your mind?

Really stretching the point there. If you want to take a qb, you don't drop to the bottom of a round from the top. Between that, SM's drafting history, and the lack of agreement in general on this board, I think you are just barking up the wrong tree.It was speculation which I admit isn't really meaningful in this discussion but if others are gonna throw out there speculations then my speculation is equally as valid or not.

And again. I am not trying to make a point only to have a dialogue.

Teams trade down all the time with the expectation that the player they want will still be on the board. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. To me the process is an unknown so the speculation can go either way.

Scott's drafting history (btw Scott wasn't the principal decision maker in his previous spots) doesn't have bearing on whether not taking a QB in this situation was the right decision.

I'm perfectly comfortable with disagreement.
We could go pick by pick and I'm sure there would be disagreement. I was one of the people, even before the draft, that thought Scherff was both an OT as opposed to a guard and worthy of the 5th pick. I'm sure those were minority opinions before the draft. And this thread was meant as a discussion.

What could anyone say that would make you change your mind?I'm not sure, what would change your mind?

CRedskinsRule, I like your post about questioning QB need when the rest of the team sucks.If you think the QB position is fine going forward then I can see why you think it was fine not to address the position.


As has been discussed on this thread about how to rate a draft pick as mistake or not, it seems to me there is a gray area and brings to mind Doug Williams. Drafted high in the draft by a perennial loser of a franchise and ends up leaving that team. He could and should be considered by Tampa a mistake for Tampa. Years later he goes to Washington and wins a Superbowl. Not a mistake. So what is he?Neither here nor there but when Doug was in Tampa it was that franchises only successful seasons (playoffs, conference title game iirc) prior to Dungy.

A lot of smoke here with little fire. If QB was a huge need and there was a legit guy that SM was targeting, pretty sure he would be here. Besides I don't think drafting a later rd QB in a mediocre QB class was going to do anything to help in the short term.

I thought they'd draft a QB, but you don't draft a position just to draft a position.Lol, maybe I should have phrased the question 'did you think they would draft a QB somewhere'.

I thought they would too.

To early to....walk away from Robert. Way to many positive unknowns going into this season. Improve the team.....improve Robert, or whoever may be at the helm. Has to be done and the logical time to do it is now.
I agree, but I hold the above position and still think they should have drafted a QB.