Robert Griffin III ready to turn career around with Redskins in 2015


KI Skins Fan
08-26-2015, 06:52 PM
If you think it's negative around here now, wait until you see what it's like after the Ravens game. In view of the way the Ravens were handled by the Eagles, they are no doubt ready to rip somebody a new one - and Robert is the poor soul in their sights.

Bangee7
08-26-2015, 08:33 PM
like most, I have grown tired of the RG3 saga....all day, every day!

If the kid can start to play solidly & start showing the maturity as a QB that he should exhibit by now, then I'm 100% behind him.

I was all for giving him the first 4-5 games this year, but if "RG3-and-Out" keeps showing up, then I am ready to see if KC has matured enough against the starters.

I hope to see the answer in the Baltimore game this weekend...one way or the other.

Hail!

Flyer97
08-26-2015, 08:39 PM
What do you expect in a thread about RG-3? To a man I think everyone here wants to post great things about him for obvious reasons - we are all Redskins fans. Unfortunately we can only talk about what we see and it has been ugly. If I thought that posting positive vibes for Griff would help him be a better qb id be rah rah rah-ing all over the place! Lol

Even if he does improve and becomes a decent pocket passer, the guy is bound to get killed at one point or another with our schedule, especially the first 5-6 games against Miami and our divisional rivals. The loss of two starters doesn't help either.

Flyer97
08-26-2015, 08:42 PM
The saga just might end on opening day if Suh and co want to come out like gangbusters and prove a point, sending a message to New England, etc.

44Deezel
08-26-2015, 08:57 PM
That's a bad angle but what you don't see is Ryan Grant ran his route 2 yards short with RG3 at QB. Doesn't seem like a big deal but he would of been easily open and seen on the second level if he would of ran it right.

Not making excuses for RG3 though. He's thrown that 9 route million times on the money in his career. He could of still made a throw there. He went through the reads and hit his 3rd option though so there is that.

And as the article points out, it's fine and dandy that he still completed a pass, but he could have had a first down and instead put the Offense in yet another 3rd and long situation. The primary read was as open as you can ask for in the NFL.

44Deezel
08-26-2015, 09:03 PM
Excellent breakdown!

The points made made in this article, and the points made in a few other article posted, about RG3 not moving around in the pocket enough, all go back to what I, and others have said...

It looks like RG3 has lost his confidence.

Basically, it seems that RG3 "thinks too much" when he takes the snap and drops back.

My opinion, as to why he gets sacked so much is...

1. He focuses too much on the primary target, and the secondary targets,down field.

He doesn't seem to be aware of what is going on around him. Which is one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to move to the left or right to avoid the rush.

2. As the linked article points out, he doesn't seem to have enough faith in the offensive plays to stick with the play as-called, and is too ready to 'check-down'. Also RG3 seems to have lost faith in his ability to 'thread-the-needle'

So, IMHO, it seems that the problems that RG3 has are mostly confidence related.

Unfortunately, I have seen that kind of thing before, with players like David Woodley, Derrick Carr, ect.

And it's been widely reported that he often calls the wrong protection at the line. He doesn't appear to have much pre-snap recognition either, which forces him to be too reactionary. Doesn't seem to anticipate who is likely to be open on a given play or where to expect pressure.

DYoungJelly
08-26-2015, 10:21 PM
And it's been widely reported that he often calls the wrong protection at the line. He doesn't appear to have much pre-snap recognition either, which forces him to be too reactionary. Doesn't seem to anticipate who is likely to be open on a given play or where to expect pressure.

Cooley was talking about the protection call today in the context of assigning blame.

Smith got savaged in the media the day after the game for his play. It was not good, but if you listened to the film breakdown the other day, Cooley said it wasn't as bad as the knee jerk columnists made it out to be. Hopefully, if TW gets dinged somebody else will be the sub.

He said that every player in the locker room knows how everyone else is playing, good or bad. They also know that Griffin blew the protection call. The quickest way to lose the locker room, if it hasn't happened with the coddling already, is to let a guy get blamed for something that wasn't his fault in such a public way.

The audio link isn't up on epsn 980 yet because it wasn't a special segment. The discussion is a very interesting listen and makes sense anyway you think about; from a player's perspective or just human nature.

They also discussed the pros and cons of cutting Griffin now before the season started. The way to sell it being it is in Griffin's best interest to get a fresh start.

rickmmrr
08-27-2015, 11:16 AM
I think at this point a lot of us are beating a dead horse, I know for me the only reason I can't seem to put this to rest is because I can't wrap my head around the loyalty that the organization is giving RGIII. I could understand it if it was someone like John Elway that had taken the team to numerous SBs and won it and he's in is last days and he's starting to stink it up but you stick with him because he meant so much to the franchise.

Also what is the potential of RGIII that is so much more then the other two QBs. I could understand it if we were right at the end of 2012. But we have had 2 years of complete stink it up. I just don't get it. At this point the only thing that RGIII can do better than the other GBs is throw the ball further. That's not enough.

Plus the complete double standard. You can't say over and over again, we want to evaluate all the players and put the best 53 men out there, except when it comes to RGIII.

I hope he either plays really well and gives me a reason to root for him, or he totally stinks it up. My worst fear is that he plays medium to poor and I have to suffer through another year of this.

30gut
08-27-2015, 11:48 AM
Should McCoy's relationship with Cooley and Paulsen be considered a leak?

30gut
08-27-2015, 11:59 AM
Kurt Warner
"There were some things that I saw on tape where you could easily say if Robert maybe went to the other side on a couple of those reads, he could have got the ball out a little bit quicker,” Warner told old friend Dan Hellie on NFL Network. “But I think we have to be honest when we look at the tape, and say this wasn’t RGIII’s fault, for the most part. He wasn’t back there holding onto the ball, hitching, looking both directions. He was back there, he was dropping, he was trying to get the ball out of his hands, and his offensive line really, really struggled [Thursday] night."


PFF:
For the Washington Redskins to be successful this season, they are going to need to give Robert Griffin III time in the pocket. That wasn’t the case versus the Detroit Lions on Thursday night.

— Pressured on six of his eight dropbacks, Robert Griffin III’s three incompletions came about by way of a dropped pass, a batted pass and being hit as he threw. His supporting cast ensured that aside from ball security (two fumbles — the primary reasons behind his -3.8 grade), there was little or nothing to draw from his performance.


Jay Gruden:

So far with Robert, unfortunately, as play callers we’ve done a poor job of getting our team into a rhythm. We haven’t got a first down and then followed up with a nice bootleg or something like that. We’ve just been first down, second down, third down, punt, it seems like it was against Detroit. It’s very necessary for us to try to get our offense moving positively a little bit to get us in a rhythm, we just haven’t been able to do that. Defense, give them a lot of credit. Detroit played great defense, pass rush. They stopped the run, made it very difficult on us. They were No. 2 ranked in the league last year for a reason. But we do have to compete a lot better than that with our ones.


I'm going to blame our local media for turning ~8 drop backs in a preseason game into referendum.

We're talking about a pre-season game where our 1st unit offense played the #2 ranked defense with a 3rd string LT and with an OT at TE. Where our QB, who to be sure made mistakes, but played under duress.

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