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Michaelt31 10-12-2015, 10:25 AM Does it ever occur to you that We might be a handful of players short..I am willing to say Cousins may not be the Qb of future but he is the best we have right now..we don't have our best WR and Te on the field. Gruden does not have The bengals Roster and tell me how many years has Andy Dalton been in league?? This is Cousins first real starting job..were you ever a Browns fan calling for Bill Belichick to be fired??? Its always the head coach or the Qb fault..in my opinion the D let us down on the final drive. you can have your opinion and post on here the rest of the season about the sorry coach we have..but for me i am going to enjoy the fact that for the first time in a LONG time we have a team that has a chance to win every game ..so you are saying theres a chance….
You right I got my opinion and you got your opinion! Y'all always wa t the defense to make this and do this. I see games where guys are open and leadership lacks! Atl might get better, but this team is not part of the elite b/c they are undefeated. Kirk plays the position better than Griff I'll give you that. If any qb that been playing in drop play since the 8th grade, he should be better than griff. The question is why is he not better or why is he making footwork mistakes? As for Gruden, what he need a pro bowler at every position? One or two players, what about a coach dial up one or two plays to make the difference! A Zorn went 8-8 with a worse offense weapons! Stop thinking this guy is the answer, he not. Roster, Atl don't have many playmakers on def or offense. Ryan, Jones, Freeman who else?
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TheMalcolmConnection 10-12-2015, 01:49 PM https://media1.giphy.com/media/NPyHgTkMStCXC/200.gif
Anyone who can win when things not going completely right! His offense, play calling, and leadership is hurting this team. Hell, Joe Barry side is playing good with all kinds of injures. No excuses from him, no finger pointing! Gruden never take any blame, he got the qb he wants and the offense is still not scoring high. Hell, Dalton seems like he a better qb without Gruden. These next two games will tell you and whomever think this guy is the next Bill Walsh is a joke or the real deal!!
No one thinks he's Bill Walsh. Nor do reasonable people believe that the Redskins can simply pluck a Hall of Fame calibre coach out of nowhere and install him into the office.
I'm certainly not suggesting that Gruden is above criticism, but geez, his team just went on the road against an undefeated team and lost a nail biter in overtime. There's not a Redskins team in the last 23 years that would have won yesterday's game. And your takeaway from that is that the coach sucks? Maybe a bit more objectivity in your assessment of things might be needed.
punch it in 10-12-2015, 02:15 PM No one thinks he's Bill Walsh. Nor do reasonable people believe that the Redskins can simply pluck a Hall of Fame calibre coach out of nowhere and install him into the office.
I'm certainly not suggesting that Gruden is above criticism, but geez, his team just went on the road against an undefeated team and lost a nail biter in overtime. There's not a Redskins team in the last 23 years that would have won yesterday's game. And your takeaway from that is that the coach sucks? Maybe a bit more objectivity in your assessment of things might be needed.
He isnt the only one chastising Gruden on a weekly basis. Everyone wants to say SM is getting the rite kind of players in here, and he is. However alot of these guys were here before Gruden and had nothing to do with SM, and they are collectively playing hard for the man. I think he is not getting credit for the mind set and attitude this team is playing with. You keep that up and the wins will come.
He isnt the only one chastising Gruden on a weekly basis. Everyone wants to say SM is getting the rite kind of players in here, and he is. However alot of these guys were here before Gruden and had nothing to do with SM, and they are collectively playing hard for the man. I think he is not getting credit for the mind set and attitude this team is playing with. You keep that up and the wins will come.
Agreed. It's funny; this is an organization that in a little more than the past decade has done irreparable damage to the reputations of two hall of fame coaches and one borderline hall of fame coach, yet there continues to be this perception that the organization's failure to win is the sole responsibility of whoever is the head coach. I have faith that SM and Gruden can get us on the right track. And if Gruden can't? Well, every time we run a head coach out of town, the job is that much less desirable to the stronger candidates out there.
I would like to note - Gruden has managed to keep the locker room through a bad last year and a goofy offseason. I think this is the strongest TEAM coached by anyone not named Gibbs or Marty. He is holding players accountable, and coaches as well. That is more important to me as we rebuild, not wins just yet.
[Qcoaching UOTE=Coff;1125261]Agreed. It's funny; this is an organization that in a little more than the past decade has done irreparable damage to the reputations of two hall of fame coaches and one borderline hall of fame coach, yet there continues to be this perception that the organization's failure to win is the sole responsibility of whoever is the head coach. I have faith that SM and Gruden can get us on the right track. And if Gruden can't? Well, every time we run cannot get it head coach out of town, the job is that much less desirable to the stronger candidates out there.[/QUOTE]
Under SM, we have turned the corner on that type of thing. This team is not the type of team we have seen in the past 20 years......
If Gruden cannot get it done......you will see a desirable coaching situation emerge.
punch it in 10-12-2015, 04:56 PM [Qcoaching UOTE=Coff;1125261]Agreed. It's funny; this is an organization that in a little more than the past decade has done irreparable damage to the reputations of two hall of fame coaches and one borderline hall of fame coach, yet there continues to be this perception that the organization's failure to win is the sole responsibility of whoever is the head coach. I have faith that SM and Gruden can get us on the right track. And if Gruden can't? Well, every time we run cannot get it head coach out of town, the job is that much less desirable to the stronger candidates out there.
Under SM, we have turned the corner on that type of thing. This team is not the type of team we have seen in the past 20 years......
If Gruden cannot get it done......you will see a desirable coaching situation emerge.[/QUOTE]
But as I said Hog - only a handful of these players are SM guys. Gruden has alot of these same players that were here in our past regime playing harder. So again the corner has been turned under both of their watches and i would add that the HC is the one getting these guys in the rite mindset every day.
Michaelt31 10-12-2015, 06:50 PM He isnt the only one chastising Gruden on a weekly basis. Everyone wants to say SM is getting the rite kind of players in here, and he is. However alot of these guys were here before Gruden and had nothing to do with SM, and they are collectively playing hard for the man. I think he is not getting credit for the mind set and attitude this team is playing with. You keep that up and the wins will come.
The players might be playing hard for SM. They know his style and no none sense approach. He is the one running things, as for Gruden let see he the team comes out this week! Y'all act like Atl was in the NFC championship game last year! This team has a rookie head coach who has his team playing hard. You ready to bet money on them making to the Super Bowl. Wasn't you one of them giving Gruden credit after week 1 lost to the playoff bound Dolphins?
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