Week 15

It only matters if we lose to the eagles. If we were to lose to the eagles we would want NYG to beat the Vikings so they are playing with a chance against the Eagles.



At this point there are only 2 scenarios that get the Redskins in the playoffs, the first (and preferable) is



beat Philly. Then we are in.



The second, and much worse odds,

lose to philly,

then have NYG beat Philly and we beat Dallas.



NYG's Minnesota game has no direct bearing on us.



if Philly wins out they are in.



if we lose out, and the Giants beat Philly, the Giants are in.





on a side note,



I liked the change in tact at Gruden's press conference yesterday. Until now, all I had heard - and heard players repeating - is it's all out in front of them. Yesterday, he changed the mantra to we have a responsibility as a first place team to play sound solid football. It is a subtle shift, but if the team takes it on, then that shows that he really is leading the locker room and team, and that is a good sign.


Yes if we beat eagles its done but, if we lose than beat dallas wouldnt we need vikes to beat gints n gints to beat eagles? That would put us at 8-8, eagles at 7-9, gints at 7-9? Vikings beating giants has a huge impact on us?
Edit: or do we own tiebreaker over gints even if they go 8-8? Eithet way i want them to lose.

no, we have the tie breaker with the Giants, so if we tie them at 8-8 we go in so if NYG loses to the Vikings, they are eliminated

The Giants have to win out and hope we lose both games.

So (if we lose to Philly) we in fact want the Giants to beat the Vikings so that they play the Eagles for a meaningful game.

Consider this: if we lose Saturday, then Fox has both the Skins/Cowboys, and the NYG/Philly game at 1pm on Sunday the 3rd, and the division champ could rest on the outcome of both games with the following scenario:
Philly wins, they win the division at 8-8 with a better division record then the Skins
NYG win, Redskins win, Skins win the division at 8-8 with a better div record then NYG
NYG win, Redskins lose, NYG win the division at 8-8 with Skins and Philly both at 7-9

edit: actually we own the conf. percentage tiebreaker with the Giants if we tie them at 8-8

The Giants can now not get in unless they win out and we lose out.

However Philly controls their own destiny. If they beat us and the Giants then they are in.

If we lose to Philly, we need to beat Dallas AND Giants need to beat the Eagles.

It's a shame about the games we lost to Dallas & Miami at home. If we would have won either of those, then yesterday's win against the Bills would have clinched the division.

The Giants can now not get in unless they win out and we lose out.

However Philly controls their own destiny. If they beat us and the Giants then they are in.

If we lose to Philly, we need to beat Dallas AND Giants need to beat the Eagles.

It's a shame about the games we lost to Dallas & Miami at home. If we would have won either of those, then yesterday's win against the Bills would have clinched the division.

Yeah, you can look at a handful of games and say it's a shame, I would throw Atlanta on the road in with your two.

But this was definitely a build from the bottom up year, and I think next year those games go our way.

no, we have the tie breaker with the Giants, so if we tie them at 8-8 we go in so if NYG loses to the Vikings, they are eliminated



The Giants have to win out and hope we lose both games.



So (if we lose to Philly) we in fact want the Giants to beat the Vikings so that they play the Eagles for a meaningful game.



Consider this: if we lose Saturday, then Fox has both the Skins/Cowboys, and the NYG/Philly game at 1pm on Sunday the 3rd, and the division champ could rest on the outcome of both games with the following scenario:

Philly wins, they win the division at 8-8 with a better division record then the Skins

NYG win, Redskins win, Skins win the division at 8-8 with a better div record then NYG

NYG win, Redskins lose, NYG win the division at 8-8 with Skins and Philly both at 7-9



edit: actually we own the conf. percentage tiebreaker with the Giants if we tie them at 8-8


Gotcha thanks for the breakdown C

And for what it's worth, the AFC South is worse than the NFC East.

Gotcha thanks for the breakdown C

No problem, rather focus on the Skins making the playoffs then work stuff :)

So after we beat philly Saturday do we sit the starters for the dallas game?? I don't but what do u guys think?

No problem, rather focus on the Skins making the playoffs then work stuff :)


Hah!

So after we beat philly Saturday do we sit the starters for the dallas game?? I don't but what do u guys think?


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