Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

I think you have to resign him, just worried he is Tony Romo 2.0. We've all seen Romo puke all over himself in big games. Kirk's emotions make him worse in big situations not better. He had 2 of his worst games of the year in the last 3 must win games. He isn't Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, but he is about to get PAID like he is. So we have every right to hold him to those expectations.

I don't expect discounts and any player is going to go for the money. Still, I feel Cousins lost a lot of bargaining chips by laying a turd in the biggest game of the year. IMO, he deserves Andy Dalton money. I hope the doesn't expect Russell Wilson money.

I just hopes he goes into this negotiation with a sense of a reality.

Dalton money will never get a deal done cause that contract was signed several years ago. Sometimes you have to overpay to keep a guy, just like some guys are underpaid.

Here's 20+ reasons why I want the skins to resign Cousins. Its the economy (stability)stupid
1994 Heath Shuler 8 John Friesz 4 Gus Frerotte 2
1995 Gus Frerotte 11 Heath Shuler 5
1996 Gus Frerotte
1997 Gus Frerotte 13 Jeff Hostetler 3
1998 Trent Green 14 Gus Frerotte 2
1999 Brad Johnson
2000 Brad Johnson 11 Jeff George 5
2001 Tony Banks 14 Jeff George 2
2002 Shane Matthews 7 Patrick Ramsey 5 Danny Wuerffel 4
2003 Patrick Ramsey 11 Tim Hasselbeck 5
2004 Mark Brunell 9 Patrick Ramsey 7
2005 Mark Brunell 15 Patrick Ramsey 1
2006 Mark Brunell 9 Jason Campbell 7
2007 Jason Campbell 13 Todd Collins 3
2008 Jason Campbell
2009 Jason Campbell
2010 Donovan McNabb 13 Rex Grossman 3
2011 Rex Grossman 13 John Beck 3
2012 Robert Griffin 15
2013 Robert Griffin 13

Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?

Come on man.

NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers (http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5)

'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins)


I never said he didn't have passion or a fire. Anybody playing in the NFL most likely has some form of passion/fire to direct that much time and effort into their craft. I want to see that fire and passion even when losing, not just when things are going right. I want to see that fire and passion in his play mostly. I did a bad job conveying my thoughts in regards to the passion/fire of Cousins.

He does have passion, but he doesn't harness it to play well. If anything, he works too hard to control his passion during big games, and comes out playing as though he's a diminished version of himself. After a good performance, he blurts it all out in a cute, nerdy way. Maybe that's passion, or maybe that's popping the cork on bottled up passion. Whatever it is, it isn't the same thing as melding your own passion with external pressure to produce an elevated result. How people perform in situations like Sunday's is revealing, unless you're a pure stat-hound.

I did a poor job of conveying this message,. I never meant to imply that Kirk didn't have any passion.

Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?

Come on man.

NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers (http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5)

'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins)

Starting to go off the deep end? It went of the tracks in October.

Here's 20+ reasons why I want the skins to resign Cousins. Its the economy (stability)stupid
1994 Heath Shuler 8 John Friesz 4 Gus Frerotte 2
1995 Gus Frerotte 11 Heath Shuler 5
1996 Gus Frerotte
1997 Gus Frerotte 13 Jeff Hostetler 3
1998 Trent Green 14 Gus Frerotte 2
1999 Brad Johnson
2000 Brad Johnson 11 Jeff George 5
2001 Tony Banks 14 Jeff George 2
2002 Shane Matthews 7 Patrick Ramsey 5 Danny Wuerffel 4
2003 Patrick Ramsey 11 Tim Hasselbeck 5
2004 Mark Brunell 9 Patrick Ramsey 7
2005 Mark Brunell 15 Patrick Ramsey 1
2006 Mark Brunell 9 Jason Campbell 7
2007 Jason Campbell 13 Todd Collins 3
2008 Jason Campbell
2009 Jason Campbell
2010 Donovan McNabb 13 Rex Grossman 3
2011 Rex Grossman 13 John Beck 3
2012 Robert Griffin 15
2013 Robert Griffin 13

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As much as I'd like to keep Cousins, if he expects nothing less than $26M a year and there's another team willing to pay him that, then I'd have to say bye. There's a fine line between setting your team back a year or so in order to get (hopefully) another young, talented quarterback, and then there's a setting your team back five or six years because you have a solid franchise quarterback but can't afford to finish building a solid defense or keeping the quarterback's weapons signed.

Honestly, if he winds up being too rich for the 'skins blood, I would be willing to let him walk and resign both Jackson and Garcon.


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Now we're starting to go off the deep end. You don't think he's got passion? You like that? How you like me now? The way he sprints down the field to congratulate someone on a TD?



Come on man.



NFL: 'Sound FX' - Kirk Cousins Versus Packers (http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/NFL-Sound-FX---Kirk-Cousins-Versus-Packers/ff2a173e-fd39-480d-9852-5a1943456ed5)



'Sound FX': Kirk Cousins - NFL Videos (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000608302/Sound-FX-Kirk-Cousins)



Yeah he has passion. I agree. Ton of it. He is missing ice water in his veins. He has shown flashes of it, but he still shows shakiness at times. It is obviously 100% mental with him. All the physical tools are there. He could learn how to run when he has to but we know he has a deadly accurate arm. I always feel like he still cannot get over the fact he is starting for us. Still cannot believe it. He did spend a long time wondering if that day would ever come.

Yeah he has passion. I agree. Ton of it. He is missing ice water in his veins. He has shown flashes of it, but he still shows shakiness at times. It is obviously 100% mental with him. All the physical tools are there. He could learn how to run when he has to but we know he has a deadly accurate arm. I always feel like he still cannot get over the fact he is starting for us. Still cannot believe it. He did spend a long time wondering if that day would ever come.

Agreed. He is ELITE in middling games.

BUT he gets flustered when he gets pressure / feels the rush. One or two sacks early tends to shake his confidence and he starts throwing check-downs instead of waiting for longer plays to develop.

And he still gets flustered in the biggest of games. Sure, he can make 4th quarter comebacks, and deliver like Matty Ice in mid-season 5-7 game win streaks. BUT he has not shown that level of Brady-steel in the last game of each season.

I personally think he'll be fine. Give him another season or two. Develop a run game to help in RZ / run out clock / develop play action. Develop a defense so we don't force the game on his shoulders. I think we'll like what we find if we have patience to avoid keep on going with the QB carousel. The best QB's have been around for years and know the system SO well they can audible or run the playbook at superbly high levels. If we ever want to see that, we should actually keep a QB more than 3 years.