Cap Implications of Josh Norman

Can never have enough depth at corner. I think Cully will be here.

You know what bothers me most about our cap situation? How come our team was so devoid of talent, yet we are so close to being capped? Where we really any better than the Jags or Raiders 2 years ago in terms of talent? Why can't we have 30+ mil in salary cap like some of those other bad teams. Let's be frank, we are a bad team. Just one playing in a bad conference. Granted that's changing but we're still a work in progress.

I'd disagree with saying we're a bad team.

Yeah I wouldn't call us a bad team....we are a team in transition.

I tell ya, that run to the playoffs the second half of the season...showed me a lot not only about Cousins (per the usual, QB gets more credit than deserved) but about Gruden and a team coming together. I seriously believe if Norman didn't believe we were a team on the rise then he wouldn't be here.

If Cousins can continue his good play, and we do the 2 things McC has set out to accomplish this offseason: 1) build the run Defense and 2) improve the run game then we can be a team on the verge of being very good.


Pass me that Kool Aid bitch

We are a good team.
We're in the top 40%.
If we stay healthy we will win the division again and maybe win that elusive second playoff game.

I'd disagree with saying we're a bad team.

Yeah, it's probably a harsh assessment so I take back that "bad" portion of the statement. I'd say a mediocre team right now, but definitely on the upswing. My point was why are we so close to the cap when others around our range are 20-35mil deep in cap space. I guess we overpaid for too many shitties on our team. (hatcher, lavaou, roberts, culliver, etc..)

You know what bothers me most about our cap situation? How come our team was so devoid of talent, yet we are so close to being capped? Where we really any better than the Jags or Raiders 2 years ago in terms of talent? Why can't we have 30+ mil in salary cap like some of those other bad teams. Let's be frank, we are a bad team. Just one playing in a bad conference. Granted that's changing but we're still a work in progress.

Completely wrong to call the Redskins a bad team. If we were bad we'd be picking in the top 10. If we were mediocre we'd be picking 11-21. And if we were good we'd be picking 22-32.

As Bill Parcells famously put it, you are what your record says you are.

We have holes, but we also have strengths. When teams line up against us we negate a lot of pass rushers with the strength of our tackles. We have a deep threat in Jackson that can win often. And Reed took a step forward towards being downright uncoverable last year.

I would use the term 'decent'. The Redskins are decent. Whether we go up or down from here depends mostly on the right arm of Kirk Cousins.

Yeah, it's probably a harsh assessment so I take back that "bad" portion of the statement. I'd say a mediocre team right now, but definitely on the upswing. My point was why are we so close to the cap when others around our range are 20-35mil deep in cap space. I guess we overpaid for too many shitties on our team. (hatcher, lavaou, roberts, culliver, etc..)

Who has 20-35M in cap space? Have you actually researched the numbers or are you just throwing that out there based on bad memory?

According to OvertheCap, here are the teams currently with more than $20M in space:

Jaguars $53,746,852 bad
49ers $51,727,851 bad
Browns $40,966,334 bad
Panthers $31,028,214 very good
Titans $29,422,028 bad
Bears $22,012,772 bad
Giants $20,977,063 bad

Whatchu talkin bout, Willis?

Who has 20-35M in cap space? Have you actually researched the numbers or are you just throwing that out there based on bad memory?

According to OvertheCap, here are the teams currently with more than $20M in space:

Jaguars $53,746,852 bad
49ers $51,727,851 bad
Browns $40,966,334 bad
Panthers $31,028,214 very good
Titans $29,422,028 bad
Bears $22,012,772 bad
Giants $20,977,063 bad

Whatchu talkin bout, Willis?


My memory wasn't too bad because you actually validated what I said about some teams having that kind of salary cap. That said, Why on earth do you think the Giants or Bears are bad teams? Realistically, the Giants probably should have won the division last season, but let 3-4 games get away from them in the last few minutes.

I retracted the "bad" statement and put us at mediocre. Let's be honest, in a better division, we wouldn't have been division champs. Our whole division sucked ass last year and we didn't beat a single team over .500. That's saying a lot. Remember, we are a year removed from being the #4 pick in the draft. We didn't accumulate that much talent in a years time to suddenly vault us into contender status. Are we Browns level bad? Absolutely not. Are we going to be favored to win our division this year? Absolutely not.

My only thought was there isn't that much separating us from some of those teams with a lot of cap room. Why is it we spend on guys that don't produce. I think the fact that carrying over cap can benefit us much better than overpaying for a scrub that isn't going to merit his contract. (Luvao, Hatcher, Roberts, Culliver, etc) Even when we were bad, we still were at the brink of being capped regularly.

well, we had that 36m penalty, and that forced some money into future years to work around it. if we had it, we probably would have spent it though.