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Chico23231 01-05-2017, 09:08 AM Hey folks with Restricted Free Agents (Wil Compton, Chris Thompson, Nsehke)...how does that work again? Do we slot them a one year tender offer that corresponds with a draft pick? Then they can 1) accept it and sign 2) Take the offer and negotiate with other teams and if the other team signs them, then we receive compensation in the form of draft pick? 3) And Id imagine we can just go ahead and sign them to a long term deal?
Sorry, im tripping on acid and confused...any help?
KI Skins Fan 01-05-2017, 09:14 AM Hey folks with Restricted Free Agents (Wil Compton, Chris Thompson, Nsehke)...how does that work again? Do we slot them a one year tender offer that corresponds with a draft pick? Then they can 1) accept it and sign 2) Take the offer and negotiate with other teams and if the other team signs them, then we receive compensation in the form of draft pick? 3) And Id imagine we can just go ahead and sign them to a long term deal?
Sorry, im tripping on acid and confused...any help?
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Chico23231 01-05-2017, 09:45 AM Redskins top restricted free agent Chris Thompson showed durability - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN (http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29619/redskins-top-restricted-free-agent-chris-thompson-showed-durability)
Keim to the rescue..
The question will be: Which round will these players be tendered? The Redskins could do an original-round tender with Thompson, which means they’d receive a fifth-round pick if he left. They could also do a second-round tender, which would be nearly $1 million more – but they’d receive a second-round pick if he signed elsewhere and they failed to match.
With Nsekhe and Compton, both were undrafted so the Redskins can’t use an original-round tender on them. If they don’t use a second-round tender, they could lose them without compensation – but they would have the right of first refusal. Again, for approximately $1 million more, they could give them a second-round tender.
Schneed10 01-05-2017, 10:39 AM Last year, the tender values were:
Original Tender: $1.7M
Second Round Tender: $2.6M
First Round Tender: $3.6M
So on the safe side, assume Compton Nsekhe and Chris Thompson would all be given 2nd round tenders of $2.6M apiece. Maybe slightly more since there will be a year's worth of inflation applied.
In my OP I had Thompson coming back at $3.0, Compton at $4.0, and Nsekhe walking. You can make the mental adjustment there to understand cap impact.
Chico23231 01-05-2017, 10:48 AM Last year, the tender values were:
Original Tender: $1.7M
Second Round Tender: $2.6M
First Round Tender: $3.6M
So on the safe side, assume Compton Nsekhe and Chris Thompson would all be given 2nd round tenders of $2.6M apiece. Maybe slightly more since there will be a year's worth of inflation applied.
In my OP I had Thompson coming back at $3.0, Compton at $4.0, and Nsekhe walking. You can make the mental adjustment there to understand cap impact.
Agree, second round tender makes sense for all 3. Could you imagine flipping Nsekhe for a second round pick? that would be outstanding
Irrefutable 01-05-2017, 10:56 AM Agree, second round tender makes sense for all 3. Could you imagine flipping Nsekhe for a second round pick? that would be outstanding
I would rather have Nsekhe than a 2nd round pick. KC would be dead if we did not have him when Trent was out. There is no offensive line depth and it is a position prone to injuries.
sdskinsfan2001 01-05-2017, 11:08 AM How does this tender thing work? Is it like baseball arbitration, where you can only use it up to a certain amount of years the player has been in the league? Then after that he's an unrestricted free agent?
I guess another question would be, for example why is Chris Thompson a restricted free agent instead of UFA?
mooby 01-05-2017, 11:28 AM Agree, second round tender makes sense for all 3. Could you imagine flipping Nsekhe for a second round pick? that would be outstanding
That's my dream scenario. Although I wouldn't fault the Redskins if they let him walk so he can start for some other team. Ideally we flip him for something though, hell even a 3rd rounder would be nice. I'd love a high pick but he's already 30 (admittedly with very little wear-and-tear compared to other 30 year olds).
Schneed10 01-05-2017, 11:29 AM Exclusive-rights free agents
Exclusive-rights free agents (ERFAs) are players with two or fewer seasons of service time and whose contracts have expired. If their team tenders a qualifying offer (a one-year contract usually at league-minimum salary) the player has no negotiating rights with other teams, and must either sign the tender with the team or sit out the season.[5]
Restricted free agents
Restricted free agents (RFAs) are players who have three or fewer accrued seasons of service and whose contracts have expired. RFAs have received qualifying offers from their old clubs and are free to negotiate with any club until a deadline which occurs approximately a week prior to the NFL Draft (for 2010 the deadline was April 15), at which time their rights revert to their original club. If a player accepts an offer from a new club, the old club will have the right to match the offer and retain the player. If the old club elects not to match the offer, it may receive draft-choice compensation depending on the level of the qualifying offer made to the player.[6]
Unrestricted free agents
Unrestricted free agents are players with expired contracts that have completed four or more accrued seasons of service. They are free to sign with any franchise.[6]
Undrafted free agents
Undrafted free agents are players eligible for the NFL Draft but who are not selected; they can negotiate and sign with any team.
So Chris Thompson actually has 4 seasons under his belt, but he only officially accrued three NFL seasons because he was hurt so much for one of them (you have to be on the roster or practice squad for 6+ games in a season to have an accrued season, and not on IR during that time). So Thompson only has 3 accrued seasons right now, making him an RFA instead of a UFA.
Schneed10 01-05-2017, 11:31 AM If Thompson plays under the one year tender in 2017 as an RFA, then next year he will have 4 accrued seasons and his contract will be expired, making him a UFA in 2018.
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