2017 Free Agent PFF rankings

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artmonkforhallofamein07
01-10-2017, 01:24 PM
where is desean? he's mia on the list

Chico23231
01-10-2017, 02:35 PM
Profootball Focus just ranked all the secondaries in the league from the season...and they put us 26th overall. But Josh Norman was the real deal. :

"Big-money free agent Josh Norman didn’t quite match his 2015 season, but was still a considerable improvement for the Washington secondary. In fact, Norman actually made plays on the ball more often than he did last season; the former Panther intercepted or broke up 20 percent of his targets, the highest percentage in the league. Beyond Norman, injuries definitely did not help the Redskins’ secondary. However, Will Blackmon played well when given a chance, and Bashaud Breeland played better as the season progressed. Missed tackles were an issue for Washington’s defensive backs. Their 61 missed tackles were fifth-most among NFL secondaries, and Duke Ihenacho recorded the second-most for a defensive back, with 15."

You know what, Duke Ihenacho needs to go.

NCSUredskin
01-10-2017, 02:49 PM
Love Compton and understand he is a fan favorite, but this isn't preschool.....we can't continue to have him starting at LB is we want to have a successful defense, he is too slow

mooby
01-10-2017, 04:31 PM
Profootball Focus just ranked all the secondaries in the league from the season...and they put us 26th overall. But Josh Norman was the real deal. :

"Big-money free agent Josh Norman didn’t quite match his 2015 season, but was still a considerable improvement for the Washington secondary. In fact, Norman actually made plays on the ball more often than he did last season; the former Panther intercepted or broke up 20 percent of his targets, the highest percentage in the league. Beyond Norman, injuries definitely did not help the Redskins’ secondary. However, Will Blackmon played well when given a chance, and Bashaud Breeland played better as the season progressed. Missed tackles were an issue for Washington’s defensive backs. Their 61 missed tackles were fifth-most among NFL secondaries, and Duke Ihenacho recorded the second-most for a defensive back, with 15."

You know what, Duke Ihenacho needs to go.

Good wrap up which I agree with. I saw Duke bounce off enough ballcarriers last year to know we need an upgrade. Blackmon can go too, I think he's undersized for safety. Bree/Norman can stay as starters and obviously Fuller needs more development, but those are the only three I'm keeping. I'm hoping Cravens balls out at SS but I don't think we can guarantee it.

artmonkforhallofamein07
01-11-2017, 08:02 AM
One thing I noticed with both Duke and DWhitner was the poor angles they took coming up to fill the box. Many times filling the wrong hole completely and allowing the RB to burst to the third level untouched.

Chico23231
01-11-2017, 09:09 AM
Couple things we have to consider when looking at these rankings:

1. This is just one year of play
2. look at the snap count because it could be based on limited/rotational play,
3. you have to look at scheme
4. then you have to think why others guys graded low? Were they playing in a new scheme or dealing with injury?

just things we arm chair GMs need to consider

IMO, I think there is a lot of fools gold in these secondary FA rankings of PFF.

You look at Guard, couple Linebackers and couple DE/DT and you see some quality pieces there.

KI Skins Fan
01-11-2017, 09:21 AM
Couple things we have to consider when looking at these rankings:

1. This is just one year of play
2. look at the snap count because it could be based on limited/rotational play,
3. you have to look at scheme
4. then you have to think why others guys graded low? Were they playing in a new scheme or dealing with injury?

just things we arm chair GMs need to consider

IMO, I think there is a lot of fools gold in these secondary FA rankings of PFF.

You look at Guard, couple Linebackers and couple DE/DT and you see some quality pieces there.


I agree with you about the caveats but I just can't do that much research. If I could, I'd probably reach the wrong conclusions anyway.

Who do you like at safety? Which ones do you think could play center field for us?

Chico23231
01-11-2017, 09:27 AM
I agree with you about the caveats but I just can't do that much research. If I could, I'd probably reach the wrong conclusions anyway.

Who do you like at safety? Which ones do you think could play center field for us?

Safety is worse than CB imo. Eric Berry is a king no doubt about his talent, outside of that, I don't see a lot. You have some potential SS guys, but Im not paying anyone except back-up money to Sua Cravens.

At Corner you wait and see how the market shakes out, but you could find a cheap, decent vet to put opposite of Norman on the outside if you think Fuller isn't ready. I think Im keeping Bree in the slot full time.

skinsfan69
01-11-2017, 11:13 AM
Compton is and should be a back up NFL linebacker and special teams guy. That's who he is. If he plays 16 games he gets exposed. To me his main problem is he's just too freakin' slow. What concerns me is Spaight couldn't beat him out so what does that say about him??????

I would keep Blackmon. He's not a safety so I'm not sure why they put him there. He actually played well as our 3rd corner in 2015. He should have been our 3rd or 4th corner, not safety.

I'm done with these coaches switching positions on defense. This ain't college ball. Maybe that's one of the reasons you couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.

KI Skins Fan
01-11-2017, 11:18 AM
Compton is and should be a back up NFL linebacker and special teams guy. That's who he is. If he plays 16 games he gets exposed. To me his main problem is he's just too freakin' slow. What concerns me is Spaight couldn't beat him out so what does that say about him??????

I would keep Blackmon. He's not a safety so I'm not sure why they put him there. He actually played well as our 3rd corner in 2015. He should have been our 3rd or 4th corner, not safety.

I'm done with these coaches switching positions on defense. This ain't college ball. Maybe that's one of the reasons you couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.

Spaight is slow too. Scot needs to gain a better appreciation for speed in his draft picks, IMHO.

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