Patrick Ramsey's Future

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dirtbag2112
06-01-2005, 11:29 AM
Yeah Ramsey made a poor decision in the final minutes of that Eagles game...but you know what? He was trying to win. I've seen guys like Peyton Manning and Brett Favre make even worse decisions in even bigger games.

TheMalcolmConnection
06-01-2005, 11:30 AM
Very true. But I also see Manning and Favre make a lot of game WINNING plays. I think that's really the only thing Ramsey is lacking.

But to be perfectly fair to him, his supporting cast has been somewhat lacking until recently.

skinsguy
06-01-2005, 11:35 AM
That's true! When you don't have pro bowl type of players on the receiving end, then it makes it harder for a QB to take chances - winds up making the QB look that much worse! A QB like Farve or Manning can take stupid chances because they are confident enough to know that they will get another shot and eventually their taking chances pays off.

Alot of Ramsey's poor decisions come from lack of experience. He'll continue to make some mistakes this year, but I believe the mistakes will decrease as the year continues.....at least assuming Ramsey doesn't get hurt or becomes ineffective. If so, look out..here comes Brunell! That is what it's important for us to have a mammoth running game so we don't have to pass the ball...LOL!!!

TheMalcolmConnection
06-01-2005, 11:44 AM
I don't know. Ramsey has plenty of experience for a starting QB.

Gmanc711
06-01-2005, 11:51 AM
I don't know. Ramsey has plenty of experience for a starting QB.

For one of the few times, I actually disagree. When you look at all of his actual starts, it comes up to somthing like 23 games, which is only a season and a half. When you look at the fact that he was in different systems as well, it really takes away from his experiance. I think this year is his make or break year, I think he has had enough experiance to make it his make or break year, but I dont think he has had enough experiance to blame past mistakes on having experiance already. If that makes sense. Its tough to explain what I mean.

TheMalcolmConnection
06-01-2005, 12:11 PM
No, it definitely makes sense. I didn't go into detail about what I meant, but pretty much I agree. I don't blame him for making mistakes, but I DO think he has enough gametime experience for this to be his year to prove he can do it.

celts32
06-01-2005, 12:17 PM
It seems pretty clear that Ramsey has the job for 2 years at which point they will need to make a decision. If Rasmey plays great they will probably resign him, but if he is just so so they will either let him leave for nothing or put a tag on him and trade him. The only way Gibbs will hand this thing over the Campbell before the 2 years is up is if Ramsey is a trainwreck and then that would not be a bad thing anyway.

dirtbag2112
06-01-2005, 12:33 PM
Did any of you guys catch the NFL network playbook in wich they broke down draft picks from 2002? Anyways when they got to QB's they gave Ramsey a lot of credit. Even though Carr and Harrington were drafted higher they like Patrick. Despite being in two night and day systems, he has a better winning percentage than both of those guys. I'm just rambling guys...I'm a huge Ramsey fan.

Daseal
06-01-2005, 12:48 PM
Gibbs has always been the type that doesn't mind QB controversy, he thinks having two real good QBs is a great problem to have. I don't think he has "a guy", he just wants to have a couple good ones on hand, and he'll end up playing the best one. Simple as that. I don't think he brought in Campbell with the intention of trading Ramsey, and I don't think he views Campbell as Ramsey's automatic successor. He's just going to give them both a shot, evaluate them, and play the best one.
Gibbs may like that, but our salary cap doesn't. I seriously doubt Ramsey would resign a contract, especially a cheap one, to stay as the #2 here in DC.

Look, Ramsey's gotta step up already, no more development. He's been in the league long enough that it's now time to perform; the expectations are the same for Joey Harrington and David Carr this year.
The difference is Harrington and Carr don't get yanked out of the lineup consistantly. Ramsey needs AT LEAST a full year to play and get in his rhythm.

MTK
06-01-2005, 01:13 PM
Ramsey has a decent amount of experience, but it's come in two very different systems and he's been yanked in and out of the lineup.

This will be a no excuses year for him. The job is his to lose. This is the year we find out if Ramsey is the QB we can continue to build the team around, or will Gibbs be looking to hand the reins over to Campbell next year.

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