Parkland Shooting

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Chief X_Phackter
06-02-2022, 09:31 AM
And that is the attitude will keep anything worth while from getting done.

What attitude is that exactly?

The one where I'm willing to do pretty much everything except for take something away from law abiding citizens?

You're such a quack man. You offer zero substance to any conversation on here. You reply with generalizations and memes...+1 to other individual's well though out posts because you can't come up with your own...I'm not even sure why you are here at all.

MTK
06-02-2022, 09:38 AM
I'm not against trying. I just disagree with that particular effort.

You say "people have to find another gun to hunt with?" But that is exactly what wackos will do too - find another gun to go shoot up a classroom or supermarket with, or resort to classroom bombs, supermarket pipe bombs, etc. In reality though, these assholes will still get their hands on AR-15s or whatever they want - illegally, because that's what criminals do. So now it's just the nefarious characters out there with AR-15s.

Oh, but it will make it harder for them to kill as many people.... BS. Where there's a will there's a way. You won't have less of these incidents until you (as Mooby said sarcastically) go to the source. Fix what it is that is making these jackoffs want to go out and kill people, establish measures to identify them before they do, make it harder or illegal for kids to buy a gun, have the most severe penalties for any gun-related offense (and actually follow through on them)...

Most everything is on the table for me, but I won't support a ban on a semi-automatic rifle. It's a cop-out, and it's a rabbit hole I'm not willing to start down.

Obviously just banning them isn't the answer, making them harder to get in the first place is the bigger part of it.

Most Americans agree on some common sense gun reform and we can't even get that.

How about we start somewhere vs tossing our hands up at every possible solution.

Chief X_Phackter
06-02-2022, 09:49 AM
Obviously just banning them isn't the answer, making them harder to get in the first place is the bigger part of it.

Most Americans agree on some common sense gun reform and we can't even get that.

How about we start somewhere vs tossing our hands up at every possible solution.

I am on board with that.

Giantone
06-02-2022, 09:50 AM
What attitude is that exactly?

The one where I'm willing to do pretty much everything except for take something away from law abiding citizens?

You're such a quack man. You offer zero substance to any conversation on here. You reply with generalizations and memes...+1 to other individual's well though out posts because you can't come up with your own...I'm not even sure why you are here at all.



HS, you get called out because you say you want to try anything and then throw out "BUT" this or that !The attitude of acting like you care but you really don't. God forbid you actually admit the second amendment is outdated and needs to be amended. You're one of the many that believe that a bunch of old white plantation owners could make the Constitution back in 1776 know what was going to happen in 2022. As for my own post's I have laid out what it is I want and I 'm not doing it for everyone who won't go back and read them. I have three Teachers in the family and I have said my peace over and over and yes I agree 100% with Mooby tough shit!

MTK
06-02-2022, 09:51 AM
Meanwhile another shooting last night at a hospital in Tulsa, don't worry our lawmakers have plenty of thoughts and prayers ready to go

Chico23231
06-02-2022, 10:01 AM
When folks are ready to make a commitment to charge and prosecute all illegal gun offenses, then talk to me about more guns laws

Until then, kick rocks

Also the unwillingness to protect schools it’s laughable. Surveyed teachers say the threats against them from students and parents is a growing problem. Combine this with what just happened in Texas…let’s secure our schools

Chief X_Phackter
06-02-2022, 10:07 AM
HS, you get called out because you say you want to try anything and then throw out "BUT" this or that !The attitude of acting like you care but you really don't. God forbid you actually admit the second amendment is outdated and needs to be amended. You're one of the many that believe that a bunch of old white plantation owners could make the Constitution back in 1776 know what was going to happen in 2022. As for my own post's I have laid out what it is I want and I 'm not doing it for everyone who won't go back and read them. I have three Teachers in the family and I have said my peace over and over and yes I agree 100% with Mooby tough shit!

I never said I want to try "anything", which means "everything". You continue to have a difficult time comprehending what is posted on here. I am not sure how to help you.

Just because I won't support a ban on a semi-automatic rifle doesn't mean I don't care. There are other ways to attack this issue. We just have to all get on board with doing that.

Chief X_Phackter
06-02-2022, 10:13 AM
When folks are ready to make a commitment to charge and prosecute all illegal gun offenses, then talk to me about more guns laws

Until then, kick rocks

Also the unwillingness to protect schools it’s laughable. Surveyed teachers say the threats against them from students and parents is a growing problem. Combine this with what just happened in Texas…let’s secure our schools

Let's raise our kids to respect authority too while we're at it, and not make parents out to be the bad guys when they discipline their kids. It's a shame parents have to look over their shoulders before they put their kid in his/her place - for fear that someone is watching them and will report them. I'm not talking about child abuse either, there's obviously a line you can't cross as a parent, but I'm afraid that "timeouts" aren't as effective as a good 'ole spanking.

I told my mom to go to hell one time as a young know-it-all teenager...my dad slapped the shit out of me. I'll never forget it, and it never happened again.

MTK
06-02-2022, 10:28 AM
When folks are ready to make a commitment to charge and prosecute all illegal gun offenses, then talk to me about more guns laws

Until then, kick rocks

Also the unwillingness to protect schools it’s laughable. Surveyed teachers say the threats against them from students and parents is a growing problem. Combine this with what just happened in Texas…let’s secure our schools

Part of securing schools would involve making it harder to get these weapons in the first place.

A seriously frustrating part of all this is anytime there's a shooting and people bring up gun reform, the other side responds with well it's too soon to talk about that, or we need to address mental health first, or let's enforce existing laws, etc. We can do all of the above, it doesn't have to be a this or that situation, but let's just do fucking something already.

sdskinsfan2001
06-02-2022, 11:19 AM
I watch a lot of crime shows, and I typically like to read more about the people after the show is over. The people that commit these type murders or become serial killers seem to have the same things in common most of the time:

Abusive parents, uninvolved parents, mental health issues, social awkwardness, lack of friends, lack of social interaction, and often times being bullied because of those things.

Until we can punish parents that abuse their kids, take signs of possible mental health issues more seriously, promote social interaction (outside of the computer/game consoles), and get rid of bullying to the best extent possible, things like this will unfortunately continue to happen.

I don't have some magic solution, but we need to come up with something better than we have now.

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