Ivar the Boneless
03-04-2018, 01:05 AM
Good, move the hell on!!!!!! I pulled for Kirk, as he is a good QB and a very nice guy, but whenever he had the chance to shut his detractors up, he gave them more rope to hang him with. Two years ago, all we needed was one out of three wins at the end to get into the playoffs and he couldn't come up with that, then the end of last season pretty much the same thing. Guy couldn't rise to the occasion to show folks he could take the team to the next level. The guy is a good Qb, that is above average and maybe can get a well run team into the playoffs on a consistent basis. The Redskins are not that team yet.
Ivar the Boneless
03-04-2018, 01:07 AM
I’m not buying this idea he’ll need to give someone a discount just to go to a good team.
The Jets seem to have the total hots for him and I read a week or two ago said they will pay the man!!!!!!!
CRedskinsRule
03-04-2018, 08:35 AM
Both the Vikings and Jets could pay what the reports say he wants cap and cash wise, so if he takes less it won't be for team building it will be because that was the best offer he received. I still think it will be less than the reports that have been floating around, as I think alot of that is agent press to play his client's value up.
Fortunately this will be over in about 10 days, and what else would we all have talked about? Pies and sandwiches???
Schneed10
03-04-2018, 08:39 AM
The Redskins are going to come through all this looking very wise for not signing him to top QB money. Whoever gets him is going to end up with a thinner roster and we all know that’s the opposite of what he needs. If he goes to the Vikings, his window to win it all is maybe two years at most before the Vikings end having to forego resigning some of their talented young players.
The road to the Super Bowl would run through Philadelphia, and there’s no way I can see Cousins lifting his team over Carson Wentz in the crunch moments.
That sentence sucked.
CRedskinsRule
03-04-2018, 09:13 AM
I think I am rooting for the Vikings to get him, I would like to see how he plugs and plays into a top-notch team. Was it that Gruden and the Skins couldn't put enough (or the right) pieces around him? Or was it that he couldn't lift the team at crunch time? The nice thing is: with us having Alex Smith and the Vikings getting Cousins it would almost give you a perfect look at both scenarios.
The Redskins defense has ranked 21st, 28th, and 28th the last 3 years with Kirk as QB. Is that enough of a case to show the right pieces weren’t here?
If we can’t improve that side of the ball Smith will be a .500 type of QB like Kirk.
CRedskinsRule
03-04-2018, 10:18 AM
The Redskins defense has ranked 21st, 28th, and 28th the last 3 years with Kirk as QB. Is that enough of a case to show the right pieces weren’t here?
If we can’t improve that side of the ball Smith will be a .500 type of QB like Kirk.That's why I said that the red zone offense scoring will be a big difference with Smith vs Cousins. We were in the red zone a lot and Cousins, and the offense, often failed to convert and worse, sometimes at critical points, turned it over. Alex Smith hasn't shown a propensity to do that.
skinsfaninok
03-04-2018, 11:19 AM
The Redskins defense has ranked 21st, 28th, and 28th the last 3 years with Kirk as QB. Is that enough of a case to show the right pieces weren’t here?
If we can’t improve that side of the ball Smith will be a .500 type of QB like Kirk.That's also because we couldn't run the ball
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mooby
03-04-2018, 11:56 AM
......wonder what the open market would be for him???
I don't think he'll get 30 million AAV, but that might be because he doesn't need 30 mil AAV. Something comparable to Jimmy G should be fine. If he does get some insane deal (won't rule that out) it's because his agent played teams like fiddles against each other, but really that will only hurt Kirk in the end because he needs a good team around him to be the best player he can be.
Giantone
03-04-2018, 12:26 PM
I don't think he'll get 30 million AAV, but that might be because he doesn't need 30 mil AAV. Something comparable to Jimmy G should be fine. If he does get some insane deal (won't rule that out) it's because his agent played teams like fiddles against each other, but really that will only hurt Kirk in the end because he needs a good team around him to be the best player he can be.
?? You don't think Arron Rodgers will get an Offer of 30 million a year from Greenbay even after they said they will wait to see what happens with Cousins?Why would Arron Rodgers sign for JG money???