Around the league Week 6

Yeah I'd say 12-15 for Alex. I'm a little surprised at some of the reactions from fans this year. He's never going to be a drop back and kill you from the pocket QB. We've seen the formula for winning with him from the 3 wins. Run the ball, play well defensively, and he will manage the offense, make some nifty plays on the run and by scrambling, and not turn it over. No he hasn't played his best ball yet and I think a lot of that comes from Gruden continuing to mold the offense to suit his strengths. They'll get there, it takes time.

A group of us went through all of the starting QB's and identified Alex at number 15. This is a QB league and 15 means you are average at the position. Last night is an example of a great QB can fix other issues. Until Alex's performs better, or we find someone new, we will 7 - 9 to 10 - 6. If he improves throughout the season and lowers his ranking to number 10, we will be in a better place during the second half of the year.


Any thoughts on were he should be ranked?

I would still have him in the top 10, for one main reason - he doesn't make blunders. He may not be the flashiest, but with a few more games with these receivers he will be one of the "winningest"

Looking at QB rating he is #18th, but 7 of the 17 ahead of him have 5 or more than turnovers, and another 6 have 3 or more turnovers. In terms of touchdowns, his number is comparatively low, 6 versus double digits for most qb's, and if that number doesn't pick up over the next 4 weeks, then I will re-evaluate it.

Finally stats alone aren't everything, wins and contribution to the win, or loss, are sometimes judgement calls, and best I can tell Smith has contributed to our wins with important 3rd down completions, and not had any boneheaded/lack of awareness plays that led considerably to the other team's winning.

Yeah I'd say 12-15 for Alex. I'm a little surprised at some of the reactions from fans this year. He's never going to be a drop back and kill you from the pocket QB. We've seen the formula for winning with him from the 3 wins. Run the ball, play well defensively, and he will manage the offense, make some nifty plays on the run and by scrambling, and not turn it over. No he hasn't played his best ball yet and I think a lot of that comes from Gruden continuing to mold the offense to suit his strengths. They'll get there, it takes time.

The TD pass to PRich was big time, back of the end zone and placed it on a rope. He is a good QB and I'm still happy we got him

The TD pass to PRich was big time, back of the end zone and placed it on a rope. He is a good QB and I'm still happy we got him

People just need to get used to a different style of QB. He's going to be fine once he and Jay get all the kinks worked out.

People just need to get used to a different style of QB. He's going to be fine once he and Jay get all the kinks worked out.

Agree, we need to remember its just 5 games in.

Agree, we need to remember its just 5 games in.I hate to even say this, but you know we had 4 preseason games that might have helped getting on the same page...

Wrong thread. Damnit.

Big Panthers fan this week. Good chance to gain a game on the whole division. Take advantage.

Giants owner John Mara just now at owners meetings, re: Odell Beckham: "I wish he would create the headlines by his play on the field as opposed to what he says and what he does off the field. I think he needs to do a little more playing and a little less talking."

Giants owner John Mara just now at owners meetings, re: Odell Beckham: "I wish he would create the headlines by his play on the field as opposed to what he says and what he does off the field. I think he needs to do a little more playing and a little less talking."Lololol! This would have been a valid position before unloading the Brinks truck.

OBJ can and will do whatever he wants now!

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Beckham is the kind of guy where if the Giants lose and he gets 8 catches for 130 and a td or two he's totally fine. It's seems to be all about him all the time. Giants were really in a tough spot. They kind of had to pay the guy.