If you are the 2nd-best athlete in the NFL, does it make it okay?

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diehardskin2982
06-04-2005, 01:26 PM
this type of thing happens to most great atheletes who left a bad situation and excelled into riches because of their talent. They grow up with others around them who don't get a chance, or come from a worst off situation where all they know is violence. they may be best friends with the players, and when the player makes it big they end up being accussed of changing, or thinking they're better than others. So the atheletes are put in a place where they have to chose between the people they grew up with or their careers. That is a hard thing to do. It's all apart of growing up. It happened to vick, Ray Lewis, J. Lewis, and most players who let their friends use a car or property to the own. The player may end up in the wrong place at the wrong time like joey porter, and maybe taylor...

monk81
06-04-2005, 01:45 PM
Yeah, I'm with you Ramseyfan. If he wasn't involved in the shooting (just a witness) I'm fine with him playing for us. But I don't want a criminal with the 'Skins and I'm sure Gibbs feels the same way. We don't need a clown screwing up our organization anymore than it already is. :frusty:

That kind of stuff is resevered for the Dallas Cowboys players, not the Redskins.............but even this year Parcells is taking a strong stand against having thugs and criminals on his roster...........Taylor needs to get his rear end over to Redskin Park and to stay out of trouble.......even if he was a witness, what were the circumstances, is he hanging around a bunch of gang bangers and gangsta's..........if so, he needs to get some new friends........

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
06-04-2005, 02:07 PM
last year ST got burned a bit because even though he's class A physically, he hasn't put the time into film study and mental prep that he really needs to, and until he does he won't be the kind of game changer that manning, TO, reed etc are...

Owens had 35 receptions for 520 yards and 4 TDs as a rookie.

Manning had a QB rating of 71.2 and 2 more INTs than TDs as a rookie.

Taylor had 1 more turnover than Reed had as a rookie.

Taylor might not be the quintessential game-changer yet, but neither were TO, Manning, or Reed as rookies. Give him time (that is, if a Judge doesn't give him time).

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
06-04-2005, 02:10 PM
That kind of stuff is resevered for the Dallas Cowboys players, not the Redskins.............but even this year Parcells is taking a strong stand against having thugs and criminals on his roster...........Taylor needs to get his rear end over to Redskin Park and to stay out of trouble.......even if he was a witness, what were the circumstances, is he hanging around a bunch of gang bangers and gangsta's..........if so, he needs to get some new friends........

Taylor was dumb for hanging around people who were doing the shooting. But, we don't know if Taylor was actually accompanying them. We don't know that Taylor did anything wrong. So, I think it's a bit early to crucify him. If he was in fact hanging out with the people who did the shooting, then we can nail him to a cross. Until then, we're just speculating and can't make hard and fast judgments about the guy.

monk81
06-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Taylor was dumb for hanging around people who were doing the shooting. But, we don't know if Taylor was actually accompanying them. We don't know that Taylor did anything wrong. So, I think it's a bit early to crucify him. If he was in fact hanging out with the people who did the shooting, then we can nail him to a cross. Until then, we're just speculating and can't make hard and fast judgments about the guy.

Ramsey fan.....that's why I posed it as a question, "what were the circumstances"......and is the cause of the problems who is he hanging around with IF SO then get some new friends...... but with this guys short career and track record it's hard to not see the hand writing on the wall.....
I'll hope for the best, and pray if it's for the worst.....as the old saying goes.......

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
06-04-2005, 02:23 PM
Monk,

I wasn't actually responding solely to your post when I quoted it. I saw that you said you needed to know what the circumstances surrounding the shooting were. So, I didn't mean to respond to/attack your post - I was just trying to tell others to reserve judgment.

monk81
06-04-2005, 02:29 PM
Monk,

I wasn't actually responding solely to your post when I quoted it. I saw that you said you needed to know what the circumstances surrounding the shooting were. So, I didn't mean to respond to/attack your post - I was just trying to tell others to reserve judgment.

Okay........peace................ :food-smil

Daseal
06-04-2005, 05:21 PM
First of all, Jamal Lewis doing four months for cocaine trafficing. What would that give your ordinary Joe. (Hint: Probably more than even 4 years)

Second of all, innocent until proven guilty. He was innocent of the DUI, I believe the judge called that case "ridiculous." So until I at least see more than just a rumor that he's wanted for questioning to make a decesion on him. It also depends on his role, I'm sure all of us have been in a car when someone wanted to do something stupid and it's nearly impossible to get out of doing it. It's stand on the side of the road in the middle of the night or stay in the car. So it depends on what your version of acomplis is. Either way, shooting a house is extreme and I in no way condone it, but I think all of the blame goes on the shooter/planner's of the afair, not someone who happened to be in the car.

Hopefully it won't be anything, but if Portis is such a great friend, he needs to bitchsmack Sean Taylor, tell him to be careful of the company he keeps, and take him under his wing.

That said, if he does go to jail, with a build liek that I doubt he'll be the one needing the chastity belt!

That Guy
06-04-2005, 08:56 PM
First of all, Jamal Lewis doing four months for cocaine trafficing. What would that give your ordinary Joe. (Hint: Probably more than even 4 years)


actually the whole thing with jamal reeked of entrapment and they waited FOUR YEARS before even trying to pursue it, and his friend never actually bought ANYTHING, he showed up and decided not to continue the sale (for fake drugs from a cop) so the whole thing was a joke from the beginning... fake deal, fake dealer, fake drugs, no sale, four years between the incident and legal action of any kind... so if it was anyone else in that case (with a clean record otherwise) i'm not sure they would've gotten anything harsher (though ordinary joe probably wouldn't be able to schedule his jail time as freely as JL was able to)...

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