Trent Williams holding out for new deal

This stuff isn't an exact science. Everyone heals at different rates. How the player says theyre feeling plays a huge role.

Great point. Counterpoint: I've never heard of a single player who came back from a broken leg in a month. I put the blame for Colt's current issues half on him and half on the team, because both were eager to see if he could come back in the event of a deep playoff run (it was 2 months from his leg to the Super Bowl, even that timeframe seems hella unrealistic).

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Cooley is almost positive T.Will is not coming back. I agree skinsfaninok, it sucks to see a guy who at his current rate will be a HOFer totally turn on the team in the span of an offseason (reportedly because he thinks they didn't take a lump seriously when he also didn't take it seriously) but I'm focused on the positives here. If we trade him, due to his position and his status in the NFL we are likely to get a good return on him. He's also entering his 30's and has had a hard time staying healthy these last few years.

As compared to Doctson, another first rounder who seems likely to get dumped in roster cuts and who we won't see any compensation for after the fact. Thank you for your service T.Will, and if somehow Bruce manages to turn this pot of shit into a pot of gold that's a feather in his cap, which would bring his ratio of feathers-to-dog turds to about 5-50.

Looking at the rumour mill and team needs, I see 3 scenarios:

1) They up the ante on contract talks and he re-signs. Unlikely given his stance on the FO and medical staff, but money does talk.
I'd also consider firing the heads of the medical and training staff; a) they don't seem that effective anyway and b) because they are far easier to replace than a HOF LT!
2) Talks are going on with teams under the radar and we're waiting out an improved offer. Pats offer a #1, but that's too little, so we wait on them upping the ante (unlikely given Belichik's history, but...), Texans offered Cloweny but he's not enough of a need and contract an issue (so maybe they throw in a pick?), Phins offer a #1 which is tempting but not quite enough. Someone makes a better offer within the next 2 weeks and we take it.
3) Team cuts off its nose to spite its face and TW holds out all season then they are forced to trade him with only 1y on his deal remaining.

Regardless of what they have said to date, they have to consider a trade if they can't get him back around the table on contract talks.

If they don't sort this out soon it's going to be a mess of a season and likely Gruden is gone by end by December (may not be a bad thing). To me, regardless of how it makes the FO look, they now have to trade TW to avoid a repeat of the Bell situation and a blown season. Getting a #1 pick or better now is far better than the Bell scenario in my view.

I think if any team had offered a 1 TW would have been traded by now. Best we are getting is a 2 and late rounder

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I think if any team had offered a 1 TW would have been traded by now. Best we are getting is a 2 and late rounder

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I think someone will offer a 1 if we wait. A LT of Trent’s caliber is VERY hard to find. Almost as hard as a franchise QB.


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So we are not putting any responsibility on Colt on wanting to come back too soon? We know how players lie in concussion exams to get back on the field. I just see Colt and Trent's situation completely different.

Also, if the medical team was so terrible, shouldn't Alex Smith or other injured players be disgruntled with the team? Also, as I've said before, wouldn't the NFLPA be already involved?

I just feel that a lot of people seem misinformed about the medical issues. Everyone keeps bringing up Guice and him having an infection, yet he talked with JP Findlay and said that they did a preventive treatment to avoid an infection.

To me the more frustrating part from the team about the medical stuff is the lack of communication (which JP Findlay said in his podcast today).

Every situation is different. But in Colt's case it seems from the outside the Redskins are idiots. Colt's going to try and play. Period. If you remember when he broke his leg I believe he actually stayed in the game for a play or two. It is dumb as dumb gets to try and rush a player back on the field for some bogus playoff run when the QB's fibula is broken. Inexcusable. There wasn't an adult in the room to shut down the nonsense.

I think someone will offer a 1 if we wait. A LT of Trent’s caliber is VERY hard to find. Almost as hard as a franchise QB.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMaybe but his injury history would be concerning to most teams even if our staff are the screwups of the league.

I would not be surprised if BA is so convinced he should get a 1 for TW that he is going to let other real good offers walk.

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This stuff isn't an exact science. Everyone heals at different rates. How the player says theyre feeling plays a huge role.

What?? It's very simple. Take X ray. Fibula is broken. Go to operating table. Done for the year. Am I missing something here?

Think about this. Those clowns wanted to rush back a career back up, injury prone, noodle armed QB who turns the ball over cause they thought he was going to put on a cape and take a 500 team to the playoffs?? Major sigh, smh.....

Please stop blaming the medical and training staffs. All of this starts at the top of the organization where the tone is set. The problem is that Mr. Burns and Smithers don't care about other people.

This stuff isn't an exact science. Everyone heals at different rates. How the player says theyre feeling plays a huge role.

Exactly, X-rays and MRIs don't tell the whole story, patient feedback is very important. If someone has a high tolerance to pain they can fool a doctor into believing they are doing better than they are.