Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

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BigHairedAristocrat
10-30-2019, 10:25 AM
He’s not ready.



But the reasons why he’s not ready are the real issue.



-Jay didn’t want to draft him



-Jay has made no effort to prepare him (no first team reps at all, didn’t build the offense around him-Kylar Murray was a 1 year starter at OU and is having success in an offense and scheme built around him)



-The QBs that Jay actually WANTS to play STILL don’t play well- suggesting that Jay wouldn’t even know how to prepare him IF he wanted to



-The team isn’t good enough to support a rookie QB



First, why are you speak of Jay in the present tense. Jay was was fired almost a month ago.

Second, you neglected to mention the single biggest reason he’s not ready:

Haskins doesn’t know the playbook. He’s been here 6 months and doesn’t know the playbook. That’s 100% on him.


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MTK
10-30-2019, 10:33 AM
Alex Smith had problems picking up the offense as well. Just saying, don't kill the rookie when he's never had to learn a pro offense before and his college system didn't prep him at all for this.

Buffalo Bob
10-30-2019, 10:53 AM
Alex Smith had problems picking up the offense as well. Just saying, don't kill the rookie when he's never had to learn a pro offense before and his college system didn't prep him at all for this.

That and they let him come out of college with sloppy footwork and other fundamental issues. It is going to take time to unlearn years of bad habits.

BigHairedAristocrat
10-30-2019, 11:03 AM
Alex Smith had problems picking up the offense as well. Just saying, don't kill the rookie when he's never had to learn a pro offense before and his college system didn't prep him at all for this.

As a backup, Haskins only job has been to learn the playbook. There's no excuse to be as clueless as he is 6 months in. APs comments would seem to indicate Haskins never really bothered. From what Sheehan has said, Haskin is the kind of guy that will put forth effort if he's "the guy" but completely not interested and disengaged if he's not. If he had been putting in the work from Day 1, perhaps he would be more prepared to be the starter.

Warthog
10-30-2019, 11:12 AM
Question: will the Redskins use their top draft pick on a QB in 2020, if Haskins makes no progress this season?

Usually drafted QB get up to two seasons to prove themselves. Will he have that time or will the get a new QB draftee and either: have a QB competition or just dump Haskins for what they can get?


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MTK
10-30-2019, 11:18 AM
Question: will the Redskins use their top draft pick on a QB in 2020, if Haskins makes no progress this season?

Usually drafted QB get up to two seasons to prove themselves. Will he have that time or will the get a new QB draftee and either: have a QB competition or just dump Haskins for what they can get?


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I think their plan all along was to sit Haskins this year. I really don't think they care about him playing this year. They knew coming in he was going to be a project.

MTK
10-30-2019, 11:27 AM
As a backup, Haskins only job has been to learn the playbook. There's no excuse to be as clueless as he is 6 months in. APs comments would seem to indicate Haskins never really bothered. From what Sheehan has said, Haskin is the kind of guy that will put forth effort if he's "the guy" but completely not interested and disengaged if he's not. If he had been putting in the work from Day 1, perhaps he would be more prepared to be the starter.

As a starter it was Smith's job to learn it too and he struggled as we saw. There's a lot more to what he's trying to learn than just memorizing plays.

BigHairedAristocrat
10-30-2019, 11:31 AM
As a starter it was Smith's job to learn it too and he struggled as we saw. There's a lot more to what he's trying to learn than just memorizing plays.

I do agree that its not fair to compare a seasoned veteran to a rookie when it comes to learning the playbook. The problem is that Haskins supposedly was not putting forth the effort to try. I will root for a player who is trying and struggling. I won't root for one who is lazy, entitled, and not putting in the work. Supposedly Haskins is finally starting to put in the work, but he would be much farther along if he had been doing this from day one.

BigHairedAristocrat
10-30-2019, 11:34 AM
Question: will the Redskins use their top draft pick on a QB in 2020, if Haskins makes no progress this season?

Usually drafted QB get up to two seasons to prove themselves. Will he have that time or will the get a new QB draftee and either: have a QB competition or just dump Haskins for what they can get?


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I think it depends on where we draft and who is available. Between Chase Young and the QBs, we are bound to have the option to select a "cant-miss" franchise player or have multiple offers to trade down.

As much as I am critical of Haskins, I do hope he gets on the field this year and shows us SOMETHING so that we have more options/leverage next year.

SunnySide
10-30-2019, 11:39 AM
As a backup, Haskins only job has been to learn the playbook. There's no excuse to be as clueless as he is 6 months in. APs comments would seem to indicate Haskins never really bothered. From what Sheehan has said, Haskin is the kind of guy that will put forth effort if he's "the guy" but completely not interested and disengaged if he's not. If he had been putting in the work from Day 1, perhaps he would be more prepared to be the starter.

Ive read this from several people but what AP comments are we talking about?

NFL Network's Mike Garafolo's reporting that AP said Haskins doesnt know the playbook have been dismissed as not true by AP.

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“After the game, I am told that he mentioned to Dwayne Haskins, ‘Get your nose in the playbook and learn these plays. Everyone thinks you don’t know them. You’re proving them right. It is time to study the playbook. Know these things inside, outside, frontwards, backwards, and everything you can,’” Garofolo said. “If Adrian Peterson is telling you this, Dwayne Haskins, it’s time man. It’s time.”

There are a couple of people who are disputing Garofolo’s report, and they are pretty familiar with the story. That story reached both Peterson and Haskins on Twitter, and both players denied that Peterson said those things to Haskins. Peterson requested that Garofolo not report any words that the running back doesn’t say himself and reaffirmed his believe in Haskins.

“If you didn’t hear something direct from me, please don’t attribute it to me,” Peterson tweeted. “I believe in Dwayne and his potential. With more time, support & commitment, he can grown like any other rookie player.”

https://247sports.com/Article/Dwayne-Haskins-Adrian-Peterson-have-beef-with-NFL-Network-report-137611307/

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