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EARTHQUAKE2689 11-13-2020, 11:18 PM Agreed. I've said it before, a Suggs/Lewis/Reed type combo would make us a #1 D
Funny thing is even without that they are 3rd overall and the number 1 passing defense in football.
AnonEmouse 11-14-2020, 03:01 AM But need to be better against the run. Part of being #1 pass D is that teams can run on us, so pass less. At times, from what I've seen at least, we're too shift up the middle and that seems to be lack of gap discipline and/or scheme. Short yardage plays particularly. Thats why a better LB corps and a run stopping S would help.
But by the same token we need a Taylor like ball hawk. I'd hoped Apke could develop into that with his speed, but nah.
Warthog 11-14-2020, 07:58 AM But need to be better against the run. Part of being #1 pass D is that teams can run on us, so pass less. At times, from what I've seen at least, we're too shift up the middle and that seems to be lack of gap discipline and/or scheme. Short yardage plays particularly. Thats why a better LB corps and a run stopping S would help.
But by the same token we need a Taylor like ball hawk. I'd hoped Apke could develop into that with his speed, but nah.
Agreed. The defense is terrible against the run, which is why the pass defense is so phenomenal. Allen is doing well. Is it Payne?? With Chase Young being double and even triple teamed, then everyone else is getting blocked one-on-one. The defense was doing so poorly against the run that Del Rio had to being in a DB to shore up the line. Part if it is LB play as well as us needing a hard-hitting S for the run.
Like I said, we need to bring in talent in LB and Safety. I think Collins is another over-priced defensive player brought in by Allen/Snyder. He’s ok but not anywhere near bloated contract he got. His injury allows the team try new talent and if we’re lucky we may get a keeper at S. But I believe the team will use some cap money to attract a very good player for S and also one for LB. I trust Smith to bring in quality players in FA. What a change after 20 years of Snyder choosing or influencing the player selection process. It will take 1-3 years to fix Snyder’s buffoonery, but Kyle Smith can do it. I also hope Rivera names Smith as the GM soon - he has pulled starters out of the UFA and low draft picks. Don’t let Kyle leave here for another team because he wasn’t promoted!!
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AnonEmouse 11-14-2020, 09:55 AM I think while there are good WR's possibly in FA, unless Robinson hits the market, there's no stars, so I'd use FA on S and if we get lucky LB (Lavonte David?). IF Justin Simmons or Anthony Harris enter FA I'd go after either or both. If we can't ship Collins or he's too expensive to cut, then one of these 2 alongside him might actually make him better.
Draft is almost certainly going to be QB top priority and then WR, TE, OL and CB, so take the best (value?) in FA for the other holes.
Re the OL, seems to me Settle is pushing Payne for the starting role, so I'm surprised he's not playing better. He should swallow RB's up the middle?
DYoungJelly 11-14-2020, 06:37 PM I don't think the DL is the problem at all.
The safeties and LBs have been missing their gap fits too often.
RR publicly called out the LBs this week. CH is playing well.
KPL and JB need to step it up big time.
Settle is a phenomenal back up and would start for most teams. He isn't going to unseat JA or DP to become a starter. DP is on a whole other level.
skinsfaninok 12-09-2020, 03:50 PM Give it up for JDR, Top 5 defense in the league
Yeah give it up for JDR, we finally have a legit DC. Just makes it even more frustrating that Jay dicked around with bums like Manusky and Barry. But anyway, it's water under the bridge. We've got grown ups in the building now making decisions.
FrenchSkin 12-09-2020, 11:18 PM Honestly I was a bit down on JDR early on because I thought this D had more talent than what shown on field, and I really don't like that he's active on twitter (not talking about the political tweets, rather the ones responding to fans criticism or retweeting comments about the Giants being the best D in the NFCE with some sort of perplex emoji)...
But the last 3 weeks this D played full 60 minutes game, and I was really impressed with Monday's gameplan. That was smart, unexpected, and efficient.
DYoungJelly 12-09-2020, 11:23 PM Yeah give it up for JDR, we finally have a legit DC. Just makes it even more frustrating that Jay dicked around with bums like Manusky and Barry. But anyway, it's water under the bridge. We've got grown ups in the building now making decisions.
Amen.
Hard to assign blame between a dude who shouldn't have been a head coach and a dude who shouldn't have been a GM in Bruce.
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