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nonniey 08-03-2021, 04:59 PM Why, it seems you ignored Florida and Texas.
Oh because of this.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
When Texas or Florida start having above average deaths for their infection rate and their population size then I will.
DeSantis policy from the beginning was to protect the most vulnerable populations while keeping his State's economy running. That has been and remains largely a success. Even given the expanded infection rate the mortality rate with those infected remains below average. Rates for those infected dying in those two states are about the same as those in California the differences is those two states did not shut their economies down. This also shows that lock-downs won't stop or even slow the spread of the virus. The left want DeSantis to implement the lock down policies that failed in their states and are bit infuriated that he's not (which highlights their failure). What is failing in Florida and Texas is vaccinations which you can't blame Desantis for (You can blame Trump and his anti vax idiot followers though).
JoeRedskin 08-03-2021, 05:08 PM I wouldn't look at either situation as a win really.
Sure, neither is a win. ... but then don't tell me New York has had an effective strategy "overall" after repeatedly blasting Florida's response. Even with the latest surge and a larger at risk population, Florida will end up with a lower death total both in raw numbers and per capita.
... I mean, I just glanced at the thread and you're shitting all over DeSantis. I don't give a flying fuck about him, but your intellectual dishonesty in advancing your chosen narrative is nothing new to this whole debate.
You aren't the first and won't be the last to just ignore inconvenient facts that don't support whatever point you are trying to make - whether it's insulting the "dumbs" or claiming vaccines kill more than covid. The gaslighting, intentional ignorance, intolerance, and just plain tribalism involved from both sides is exhausting.
Giantone 08-03-2021, 06:15 PM Yeah and the staunch Trumpers out there should really get some self awareness when it comes to shitting on Cuomo today. They're both big time creeps.
Notice Dems calling out Cuomo, what Republicans called out trump???
Chico23231 08-03-2021, 06:22 PM Notice Dems calling out Cuomo, what Republicans called out trump???
😂!
There is a staunch difference, mainly the Fawning coverage. Let me know if we need those receipts from last year
nonniey 08-03-2021, 06:28 PM Notice Dems calling out Cuomo, what Republicans called out trump???
I'm a Republican - see my posts. Romney is a Republican, McConnel is a Republican, Cheney is a Republican, etc.etc. etc. As a percentage I'd say just as few Dems call out Cuomo as Reps call out Trump.
Sure, neither is a win. ... but then don't tell me New York has had an effective strategy "overall" after repeatedly blasting Florida's response. Even with the latest surge and a larger at risk population, Florida will end up with a lower death total both in raw numbers and per capita.
... I mean, I just glanced at the thread and you're shitting all over DeSantis. I don't give a flying fuck about him, but your intellectual dishonesty in advancing your chosen narrative is nothing new to this whole debate.
You aren't the first and won't be the last to just ignore inconvenient facts that don't support whatever point you are trying to make - whether it's insulting the "dumbs" or claiming vaccines kill more than covid. The gaslighting, intentional ignorance, intolerance, and just plain tribalism involved from both sides is exhausting.
This started because someone said Florida had the right response and NY got it wrong. My dislike for DeSantis goes deeper than just his handling of covid. In the end thousands are dead in both states but some seem more interested in keeping score or receipts. As far as NY's response something worked since last year right? NY was the epicenter at the beginning of all this. So did mask mandates, quarantines, and pushing the vaccine work in getting things back on track or nah?
Giantone 08-03-2021, 08:12 PM I'm a Republican - see my posts. Romney is a Republican, McConnel is a Republican, Cheney is a Republican, etc.etc. etc. As a percentage I'd say just as few Dems call out Cuomo as Reps call out Trump.
So am I but except for(not sure) Cheney none of them called out trump for his sexual assaults' .
The 26 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12
Chico23231 08-03-2021, 08:38 PM So am I but except for(not sure) Cheney none of them called out trump for his sexual assaults' .
The 26 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct
https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12
https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif
nonniey 08-03-2021, 09:40 PM This started because someone said Florida had the right response and NY got it wrong. My dislike for DeSantis goes deeper than just his handling of covid. In the end thousands are dead in both states but some seem more interested in keeping score or receipts. As far as NY's response something worked since last year right? NY was the epicenter at the beginning of all this. So did mask mandates, quarantines, and pushing the vaccine work in getting things back on track or nah?
I was that someone and then I provided the data that proved what I was saying. You may dislike DeSantis (I don't like him cozying up to Trump, I actually have a major problem over that) but you really can't criticize his handling of COVID (yet - I'll give you yet).
punch it in 08-04-2021, 07:59 AM Sure, neither is a win. ... but then don't tell me New York has had an effective strategy "overall" after repeatedly blasting Florida's response. Even with the latest surge and a larger at risk population, Florida will end up with a lower death total both in raw numbers and per capita.
... I mean, I just glanced at the thread and you're shitting all over DeSantis. I don't give a flying fuck about him, but your intellectual dishonesty in advancing your chosen narrative is nothing new to this whole debate.
You aren't the first and won't be the last to just ignore inconvenient facts that don't support whatever point you are trying to make - whether it's insulting the "dumbs" or claiming vaccines kill more than covid. The gaslighting, intentional ignorance, intolerance, and just plain tribalism involved from both sides is exhausting.
The entire state of Florida has roughly as many people in it as the city of Manhattan. You think maybe that crowds might have something to do with the spread when comparing deaths per capita or in raw numbers?
The at risk population or the older folks you are referencing in Florida are also the most likely to get vaccinated, and were the first to get vaccinated. They also do not gather at clubs, or elsewhere and rage the night away. They stay in alot and are in bed at 5 pm. It is much more likely the virus spreads among the younger, gathering crowds like you see in NYC.
Seems like you are ignoring inconvenient facts that don’t support whatever point it is you are trying to make, but you aren’t the first and won’t be the last a wiseman once said…..
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